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Old 01-28-2019, 10:47 PM
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Default Another T206 Old Mill Blue Back??

Hi everyone, I just posted a video on YouTube showing what I believe to be a second Old Mill with blue ink on the back. What do you guys think? I've never seen the Walsh in person but I know some of you have. https://youtu.be/p5qUHZQLeFw
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:19 PM
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It's cool looking. Nice video.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:26 PM
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Hi everyone, I just posted a video on YouTube showing what I believe to be a second Old Mill with blue ink on the back. What do you guys think? I've never seen the Walsh in person but I know some of you have. https://youtu.be/p5qUHZQLeFw
Intriguing video, Ron. Congrats on the find if this all turns out to be legit. Obviously showing it off to SGC would be the next step if you plan to send it to auction. Good luck at the National.

You showed a still image of the text "Powell" on the front, taken by the USB microscope. If possible, can you post a similar microscope image of the brown ink caption from a known real T206 from your collection? I'm curious to see if there is any difference in that area. Thank you.

I watched the whole video but did not see it. Posting a side by side of the Powell caption and another card would be perfect, if you are able.

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Old 01-28-2019, 11:32 PM
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Am I the only one that think both the Walsh and Powell look fake? I'm wrong a lot and hope you score big.

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Old 01-28-2019, 11:55 PM
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I held the Walsh in my hand along with Wonka at the 2012 Nat'l in Baltimore. We both agreed it looked real, and he in fact made a robust offer to the owner, who ultimately declined.

Cool video, looks to be blue ink, like the Walsh.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:22 AM
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Nicely done. I normally watch Jorma Kaukonen or Roky Erickson vids on youtube, so this was something different. Like a walk-around of someone's low-mileage 1982 320i.

It looks blue and real to me, remember Mars Black is a very dark blue. I just think it's ink that is a bit lighter. I'd rather hear about your T206 Polar Bear backs and which ones you need and such.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:45 AM
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That looks pretty good to me -- great find it if checks out!
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:24 AM
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Here are some additional photos taken with the USB Microscope. Pictures are for name color comparison. Pictures include:

Jack Powell - Sovereign 150 - PSA 2
Jack Powell - EPDG - PSA 1
Jack Powell - Old Mill Blue Back (Print Group 1) - Ungraded, in card saver
Red Kleinow - With Bat - Old Mill (Print Group 1) - Ungraded, in card saver
Wid Conroy - Fielding - Old Mill (Print Group 1) - Ungraded, in card saver

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Hi Ron

I do not find this unusual. I examined the Walsh card closely under magnification and it looked real to me.

This Powell is just another case of a printer's mistake. The printer was running PIEDMONT back print runs.
Followed by OLD MILL back run, in which he forgot to change the ink to Black. Realized his mistake upon
checking the first printed sheet and stopped the press. And hung up the Blue OLD MILL T206 sheet to dry.

Both Powell and Walsh are from the 150 series. In the future, it wouldn't surprise me if a few more T206's
surface from this series with Blue OLD MILL backs.


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Old 01-29-2019, 06:58 AM
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Hi Ron

I do not find this unusual. I examined the Walsh card closely under magnification and it looked real to me.

This Powell is just another case of a printer's mistake. The printer was running PIEDMONT back print runs.
Followed by OLD MILL back run, in which he forgot to change the ink to Black. Realized his mistake upon
checking the first printed sheet and stopped the press. And hung up the Blue OLD MILL T206 sheet to dry.

Both Powell and Walsh are from the 150 series. In the future, it wouldn't surprise me if a few more T206's
surface from this series with Blue OLD MILL backs.


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