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Old 02-24-2014, 11:52 AM
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We had a nice board melee over ten years ago regarding this, so I'll refrain from discussing further. I had always assumed that they were removed from the market at that time. I felt like I should give my 2 cents in this thread since I was involved way back when, but that's it for me regarding these particular items. I can't be the RPPC police

Edited: I've removed all of my other posts related to this topic. This is slowly turning into a repeat of ten years ago, and I can assure you that it was no fun then, and nothing was accomplished.

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published in the early 1990's by Bob Ward and the Antique Paper Guild that I purchased when I was chasing some of these - I couldn't find much relevent to the discussion except a reference to a "bible" of sorts "Prairie Fires and Paper Moons, The American Photographic Postcard" where one could presumably research the back configuration and stamp box. If it isn't a photograph when looking at it with a loupe - it isn't real. If it IS a photograph more steps need to be taken with regard to the verso. Previous comments about attribution, "stamped" vs. printed, etc. are appropriate starting points. Making copy images has been around nearly as long as photography as has counterfitting for profit. Hard to tell without the item in hand but I lean to the no good camp as the image appears too flat.

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Frank had two of them for sale a few years ago, & I bought the other one.
that your stamp box is listed as circa 1910. I'm sure there was some overlap in production but surprised at the length of the apparent gap......
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If this Ruth rppc was real, it would be worth A LOT. .......Wouldn't be surprised to see SGC slab one, they are pretty clueless when it comes to postcards.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:56 PM
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sorry! (but they are)
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So they are all fake? What about the one that Joe bought from Frank that was graded?
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published in the early 1990's by Bob Ward and the Antique Paper Guild.
Henry, do you have the actual title of these? And are they worthwhile as references? (I assume so, since you're still referring to them). I'm always looking for "good" references to add to the library, but haven't picked up any related to RPPC's as yet.
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Just kiddin. I've been burned before. But i'm all for the "benefit of the doubt"

Ill try and get it tomorrow and post it and have everyone have a whack at whether SGC misgraded it.
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Any thread that has a post with a reference to Marcel Duchamps has to be good for the collective intellect of Net54 . Luckily (perhaps) for this postcard, there are no Magritte references.
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So they are all fake? What about the one that Joe bought from Frank that was graded?
I've always questioned the ones on Frank's page. For the reasons Jeff mentioned and also because anytime a PC with those images comes up, it's a fake. So, for the ones Frank to have sold to be the only real ones, I question that. More than likely they are fake like the rest of them.

And Jeff makes a good point. SGC doesn't know anything about postcards. I realize some board members rely on them for slabbing postcards with HOFers on them, but I've seen as many bad attribution as good ones. And heard as many stories of them rejecting obvious cards and slabbing questionable ones. It's just not their area of expertise.
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