NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you give an opinion of a person or company your full name needs to be in your post. Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on Ebay
Pre-WWII Cards
Post WWII Cards
Vintage Memorabilia
Babe Ruth Cards
Ty Cobb Cards
Lou Gehrig Cards
Mickey Mantle Cards
Goudey Cards
Bowman Cards
T205s on Ebay
Tobacco "T" Cards
Caramel "E" Cards
Vintage Baseball Postcards
Football Cards on Ebay
Exhibit Cards
Strip Cards
Baking Cards
Sporting News
Playball Cards on Ebay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-09-2010, 01:38 AM
tlwise12's Avatar
tlwise12 tlwise12 is offline
Travis Wise
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Nicholasville, KY
Posts: 632
Default 1959 Home Run Derby cards...

Recently at the national I was able to pick up one of these cards relatively cheap and didn't notice until I got home that it had been stamped on the back. I had always thought that these cards were blank backed! Does anyone here know how common this is???

Thanks
Travis
tlwise12@aol.com
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0017.jpg (70.6 KB, 750 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0018.jpg (56.4 KB, 828 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-09-2010, 03:30 AM
fkw's Avatar
fkw fkw is offline
Frank Kealoha Ward
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kea'au HI
Posts: 1,149
Default

The cards were produced by American Motors, so that fits.

Id give the stamp a small premium IMO, I like back stamps like that.

Nice find.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-09-2010, 04:42 AM
hangman62 hangman62 is offline
Ralph Gee
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: N.J.
Posts: 1,358
Default HR derby

Were you in a huge rush to pick up a card, purchase it, and never look at the back while you were at the dealers table
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-09-2010, 11:34 AM
tlwise12's Avatar
tlwise12 tlwise12 is offline
Travis Wise
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Nicholasville, KY
Posts: 632
Default no,

No,

like I said I actually was really confident that these cards were blank backed and that if it was reprinted it would say it on the front...

Travis
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-09-2010, 12:32 PM
slidekellyslide's Avatar
slidekellyslide slidekellyslide is offline
Dan Bretta
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 5,768
Default

I'm pretty sure the reprints don't say "reprint" on them at all. Having that stamp on the back though is pretty cool IMO.

I'd like to grab a Dick Stuart someday, but that one seems to bring a high premium.
__________________
Looking for Nebraska Indians memorabilia, photos and postcards
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-09-2010, 03:47 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is online now
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,532
Default

My understanding is that the reprints (or at least some of them) are not so designated but that they can be detected by differences in gloss.
__________________
Stuff trumps all. Even tainted stuff.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-09-2010, 05:09 PM
tlwise12's Avatar
tlwise12 tlwise12 is offline
Travis Wise
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Nicholasville, KY
Posts: 632
Default Thanks guys...

Thanks a lot guys I really appreciate the help! Some of the reprints that were meant to be reprints do say so down one of the sides, BUT if they are just plain out fakes they do not...

Either way I thought the stamp was really cool and honestly I think its my only card with a stamp on the back...Geez something else to collect now...

Travis
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-09-2010, 05:19 PM
Rob D. Rob D. is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,422
Default

Just an FYI on a pretty rare version of the Derby cards. I was able to work a deal to get this from Frank Ward, who I think said he's never seen another. It's among my favorite cards (but it won't be on the B/S/T soon).
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1959esslingerbeeraaron.jpg (51.5 KB, 1665 views)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-09-2010, 05:45 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is online now
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,532
Default my one HR Derby

still looking for a mays....
Attached Images
File Type: jpg aaron59.jpg (39.9 KB, 554 views)
__________________
Stuff trumps all. Even tainted stuff.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-09-2010, 05:47 PM
slidekellyslide's Avatar
slidekellyslide slidekellyslide is offline
Dan Bretta
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 5,768
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob D. View Post
Just an FYI on a pretty rare version of the Derby cards. I was able to work a deal to get this from Frank Ward, who I think said he's never seen another. It's among my favorite cards (but it won't be on the B/S/T soon).
That one is a beauty Rob...I didn't know Frank had let it go.
__________________
Looking for Nebraska Indians memorabilia, photos and postcards
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-09-2010, 06:22 PM
Rob D. Rob D. is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,422
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slidekellyslide View Post
That one is a beauty Rob...I didn't know Frank had let it go.
Yes, the good news is Frank let it go. The bad news is if I ever have a son, I'll be shipping him to Hawaii.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-09-2010, 08:40 PM
WhenItWasAHobby's Avatar
WhenItWasAHobby WhenItWasAHobby is offline
Dan Markel
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Houston-area
Posts: 558
Default Small world regarding that stamp on the back



I grew about 7 miles away from where that auto dealer was located. Thanks for posting that.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-09-2010, 08:56 PM
fkw's Avatar
fkw fkw is offline
Frank Kealoha Ward
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kea'au HI
Posts: 1,149
Default

Yes Rob, I asked many times on many sites if anyone seen another and never heard of any.
One guy I didnt know, did say he had a friend who had one (but he couldnt tell me the player) and was trying to talk me down on my price, I said if you show me a scan of another I'll knock down my price by 50%, but never heard back. Thats the closest.

The reprint HR Derby cards say reprint on the bottom of the front, but even if this is scuffed off they are easy to spot in person, the reprints are on a thicker sturdier card stock, the authentic cards are on a glossy type thin stock (similar to a R314-1).
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-10-2010, 12:19 AM
nolemmings's Avatar
nolemmings nolemmings is offline
Todd Schultz
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 2,689
Default

REA had an Esslinger Home Run Derby sheet for sale a few years back. Apparently they issued individual cards too, as the Aaron was not hand cut from the sheet. The Aaron is cropped differently, not only top and bottom but also side to side (slightly).

I remember that card not meeting the $99 minimum bid on ebay, shortly before it sold. I have not seen any others.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-10-2010, 01:48 PM
slidekellyslide's Avatar
slidekellyslide slidekellyslide is offline
Dan Bretta
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 5,768
Default

Here's a pic of that Esslinger's poster
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Item_9226_1.jpg (67.4 KB, 335 views)
__________________
Looking for Nebraska Indians memorabilia, photos and postcards
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-08-2019, 09:34 AM
smillz300 smillz300 is offline
member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 27
Default

Screenshot_20190208-092604.jpg
I'm just getting into the Home run Derby set and this Mantle i won last week has the same Stamp....very cool! These things are getting pretty hard to find!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-08-2019, 12:04 PM
brian1961 brian1961 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,003
Default

Since the topic of reprints came up, the beautiful 1960 Home Run Derby set was reprinted in the late 80s. The card dimensions and quality of the cardstock on the reprints is virtually the same as the originals. However, the reprints were marked as such with this notation to be found on the lower right border:

C.C.C. - 1988

The "C.C.C." stands for Card Collectors Company. I believe the head of the company at that time was Richard Gelman, son of famed early Topps employee, Woody Gelman.

Again, to avoid confusion, when I say "1960 Home Run Derby", that was the year the cards were issued, not 1959. I conclusively proved in my E-book, Never Cheaper By the Dozen, that they were issued the year after all the guides and grading companies have said they were.

---Brian Powell
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-08-2019, 02:32 PM
BeanTown's Avatar
BeanTown BeanTown is offline
Jay Cee
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,177
Default

Home Run Derby cards are one of my favorite sets from the 50s. Rare and cool!!!
__________________
Love Ty Cobb rare items
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-08-2019, 03:09 PM
RedsFan1941 RedsFan1941 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 984
Default

does any one know if that Aaron Esslingers card (not the sheet) posted above has sold since this thread was started? i searched online but could not find a sale. very cool card imo
__________________
R0nnie L3hman
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-08-2019, 06:01 PM
Baseballcrazy62 Baseballcrazy62 is offline
Mike Reid
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 409
Default

I have the Kaline with the same tape marks and the same stamp on the back. I will try and post a picture of later. A really cool set and very tough to find.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 02-08-2019, 06:16 PM
HRBAKER's Avatar
HRBAKER HRBAKER is offline
Jeff
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 5,028
Default Luv 'Em Too

__________________
Check out my aging Sell/Trade Album on my Profile page

HOF Type Collector + Philly A's, E/M/W cards, M101-6, Exhibits, Postcards, 30's Premiums & HOF Photos

"Assembling an unfocused collection for nearly 40 years."

Last edited by HRBAKER; 02-08-2019 at 06:32 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-08-2019, 06:20 PM
nolemmings's Avatar
nolemmings nolemmings is offline
Todd Schultz
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 2,689
Default

One of my favorites:
__________________
I know the rent is in arrears, the dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears, but it's alright
Cow is giving kerosene, kid can't read at seventeen
The words he knows are all obscene, but it's alright
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-09-2019, 10:11 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is online now
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,532
Default

Todd that's a great card. I had a PSA 5 a while back I very much regret selling. Some day.....
__________________
Stuff trumps all. Even tainted stuff.

Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 02-09-2019 at 10:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 02-10-2019, 12:22 AM
mantlefan's Avatar
mantlefan mantlefan is offline
Frank Evanov
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Manhasset NY
Posts: 165
Default HR Derby

I won a complete raw set of these about 10 years ago. I had them graded by PSA and then sold most of them. I kept these 2.




__________________
Frank Evanov
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1959 Home Run Derby- are there any soft markets out there? Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 7 02-20-2003 05:34 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:15 AM.


ebay GSB