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Old 11-24-2019, 10:50 PM
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Hi all,

I've been watching this Maris rookie card on eBay and wanted to get your thoughts on if it looks trimmed at all?

I noticed the right side of the card appears "wavy" and possibly thinner in the holder compared to other 58 Topps cards. With the trimmed card scandal going on I may just be overly paranoid, but would certainly appreciate what everyone here thinks.

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Old 11-24-2019, 10:52 PM
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i don't like the bottom rt corner?
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First thing I said was "what is going on with that lower right border".
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it's present on the left too and may well be distortion created by the plastic baggie insert.
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:09 PM
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..to my eye the holder also appears wavy and distorted in that lower section...bad scan ?

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Old 11-24-2019, 11:33 PM
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..to my eye the holder also appears wavy and distorted in that lower section...bad scan ?

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Good catch. Probably a scanner on its last legs.
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Old 11-25-2019, 08:55 AM
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Ask the seller to rescan it.
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:25 AM
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Looks wavy on both sides to me too...
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Hi all,

I've been watching this Maris rookie card on eBay and wanted to get your thoughts on if it looks trimmed at all?

I noticed the right side of the card appears "wavy" and possibly thinner in the holder compared to other 58 Topps cards. With the trimmed card scandal going on I may just be overly paranoid, but would certainly appreciate what everyone here thinks.

Thanks!

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This card has more waves than Broad Beach in Malibu
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Old 11-25-2019, 12:31 PM
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This card has more waves than Broad Beach in Malibu
But the plastic slab has the same "waves". It's likely just the faulty scan.
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:43 AM
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Both sides look wavy, but as has been said, it could be distortion. Could be trimmed though too, but hard to tell.
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MC or Trimmed to my eye stay away
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It could be the combination of a slight diamond cut and a bad scanner, but definitely looks funky in that scan. I would ask for a better one, or perhaps just phone camera pics in good light without much glare.
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Old 11-28-2019, 01:22 PM
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Thank you everyone for your opinions. I messaged the seller asking if it was wavy in person and if he could take another pic. His response was “it’s a 6, not wavy, good luck.” I think I’ll take everyone’s advice and pass on this one!




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Old 11-28-2019, 01:25 PM
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Thank you everyone for your opinions. I messaged the seller asking if it was wavy in person and if he could take another pic. His response was “it’s a 6, not wavy, good luck.” I think I’ll take everyone’s advice and pass on this one!




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What answer could the seller have given that would have made you buy the card?
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Old 11-28-2019, 01:25 PM
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Thank you everyone for your opinions. I messaged the seller asking if it was wavy in person and if he could take another pic. His response was “it’s a 6, not wavy, good luck.” I think I’ll take everyone’s advice and pass on this one!




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I think it's the scan. I've seen this before. As has been pointed out the holder looks wavy too. It seems rather obvious to me. I would bet the card is fine.
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Old 11-28-2019, 05:13 PM
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What answer could the seller have given that would have made you buy the card?


If he would have acknowledged that the scan indeed looked distorted and not ignored the request for a quick additional photo. If that’s asking too much so be it, I just don’t feel comfortable making the purchase without being able to verify.


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Old 12-02-2019, 01:12 PM
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Not that anyone was waiting on pins and needles for this question to be answered, but the card arrived today and it's not altered. The "wave" was an optical anomaly as Peter suggested. Sorry to disappoint any PSA-haters.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:19 PM
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Not that anyone was waiting on pins and needles for this question to be answered, but the card arrived today and it's not altered. The "wave" was an optical anomaly as Peter suggested. Sorry to disappoint any PSA-haters.


Glad it worked out for you! It’s definitely a gorgeous card.


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Old 12-02-2019, 08:03 PM
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Glad to hear :-)
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Old 12-02-2019, 10:25 PM
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In fact, awfully nice for a "6," although we didn't see the back...
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What's confusing to me about the card is how much it is swimming in the holder. Is that a non-standard slab? The top 'stay' (whatever the technical term is for that sliver of plastic) is so much further up than any of my holders, so that accounts for the up and down swimming, but look at how much room there is on the sides, too. Here's a random ebay screen grab with a much snugger overall fit for comparison...

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It may be a hair oversize so they had to use a bigger holder.
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Old 12-03-2019, 12:29 AM
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This is not my card, but this Maris looks weird as heck on the right side also. Maybe this card was miscut often?





Back may have part of another card?


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THat's the shadow of the ridge that holds it in place. Notice the weird shape is gone on the reverse (where it would be on the left side.)
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Old 12-04-2019, 09:02 AM
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What answer could the seller have given that would have made you buy the card?
I'm guessing that - "Sure let me get a better (higher resolution, close up corners) scan to you" would have helped considerably. It's like a $250 card. I would have wanted a better response also.
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THat's the shadow of the ridge that holds it in place. Notice the weird shape is gone on the reverse (where it would be on the left side.)
I agree.
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But as was pointed out, what's with the black stripe at the edge of the other side of the back?
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But as was pointed out, what's with the black stripe at the edge of the other side of the back?
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