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Old 09-08-2017, 11:49 AM
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There is an interesting new listing by our old pal Battlefields: a PSA 4 '52 Topps
Mantle and a '53 PSA7 Topps Mantle. With a 7 day auction it will be interesting to see how much bidder interest is aroused and where prices go. The '52 Topps, which in my humble opinion is strong, is now about $10,000. Of course, some questions might arise, such as shill bidding, unmatched card and holder, has Carol found religion, etc. Should be fun to watch if nothing else.
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Battlefield has auctioned graded cards before. They were still photoshopped and returned by the buyers if I am not mistaken.
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There is an interesting new listing by our old pal Battlefields: a PSA 4 '52 Topps
Mantle and a '53 PSA7 Topps Mantle. With a 7 day auction it will be interesting to see how much bidder interest is aroused and where prices go. The '52 Topps, which in my humble opinion is strong, is now about $10,000. Of course, some questions might arise, such as shill bidding, unmatched card and holder, has Carol found religion, etc. Should be fun to watch if nothing else.
wow, they ARE going upscale...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICKEY-MANTL...YAAOSwGn5ZshIx
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICKEY-MANTL...4AAOSwI4BZsg6s


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Old 09-08-2017, 05:44 PM
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I don't know, obviously, with a 100% certainty, but I think, if these Mantle's are anything like her previous cards, there will be some serious repercussions if these also turn out to be doctored.

This could, imo, be the beginning of the end for old battlefield,,,,,,,,,,hopefully!
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That same Mantle sold for 25,440 7/24/15 at Greg Bussineau Auctions. Anyone that has VCP can take a closer look at the card.
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original auction

Beautiful card, but obvious crease is obvious (crease has been touched up on battlefield scan, as usual). Also looks like a minor black dot was cleaned up from the upper right blue portion.


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The current auction item description....

Up for auction is a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle RC #311 vintage baseball card. This card has been graded a PSA 4 VG-EX! This card has no creases, light corner wear, near perfect centering, beautiful color, awesome eye appeal, and a beautiful clean back. There are no pinholes, markings, paper loss, or any damage of that kind.


That said, the previous description in the Bussineau Auction read...

It is very nicely centered with immaculate print quality, a beautiful unblemished aqua-blue background, and an ultra-bold crystal-clear portrait image of Mantle.

Bussineau seems to steer one away from thinking there is a wrinkle or crease. But at least you could see it.

Battlefield gets away with the description because it could be called a wrinkle vs a crease. But the photo is another story. I hope the f*cker goes down! And I wish I knew who was actually running Battlefield's page. I mentioned before that I traded messages and sure didn't get the feeling it was a woman communicating with me. Then again, I know women that talk like trucker's so I guess it's possible. The PayPal billing states Carol Battles. Could be a husband or son running it?
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Are you talking about the white line (wrinkle) above his left hand, near the border? I am not seeing the touch ups yet.
These old eyes aren't seeing well these days.

PS. Never mind. I just went to the auction on ebay. I think that scan is just wrong. Hopefully someone else will too. The thin white line can't be seen at all. It's magic. That said the scan is so small there is a chance they didn't do anything to it. I looked at the smallest image on the Bussineau site and it sort of looks similar. Misleading at best.....but not sure if it goes over the line to get pulled?

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The current auction item description....

Up for auction is a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle RC #311 vintage baseball card. This card has been graded a PSA 4 VG-EX! This card has no creases, light corner wear, near perfect centering, beautiful color, awesome eye appeal, and a beautiful clean back. There are no pinholes, markings, paper loss, or any damage of that kind.


That said, the previous description in the Bussineau Auction read...

It is very nicely centered with immaculate print quality, a beautiful unblemished aqua-blue background, and an ultra-bold crystal-clear portrait image of Mantle.

Bussineau seems to steer one away from thinking there is a wrinkle or crease. But at least you could see it.

Battlefield gets away with the description because it could be called a wrinkle vs a crease. But the photo is another story. I hope the f*cker goes down! And I wish I knew who was actually running Battlefield's page. I mentioned before that I traded messages and sure didn't get the feeling it was a woman communicating with me. Then again, I know women that talk like trucker's so I guess it's possible. The PayPal billing states Carol Battles. Could be a husband or son running it?
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This thread should be-
Battlefield part douche. Or
Battlefield behind a douche.
I think either is appropriate.
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Are you talking about the white line (wrinkle) above his left hand, near the border? I am not seeing the touch ups yet.
These old eyes aren't seeing well these days.

PS. Never mind. I just went to the auction on ebay. I think that scan is just wrong. Hopefully someone else will too. The thin white line can't be seen at all. It's magic. That said the scan is so small there is a chance they didn't do anything to it. I looked at the smallest image on the Bussineau site and it sort of looks similar. Misleading at best.....but not sure if it goes over the line to get pulled?
Misleading? Christ, they photoshopped out the crease and the black dot... period. This person(s) commits fraud everyday.
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Misleading? Christ, they photoshopped out the crease and the black dot... period. This person(s) commits fraud everyday.
Click on the link (post 6 ) to the Bussineau auction and don't enlarge the card. Can you see the crease? Same thing with the black dot, to me.
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Click on the link (post 6 ) to the Bussineau auction and don't enlarge the card. Can you see the crease? Same thing with the black dot, to me.
The thing is Leon, if you enlarge the Bussineau card, you can see both. If you enlarge the Battlefield card, you can't see either. I know Battlefield has it so you can't enlarge the pic, but I have a touchscreen laptop that allows me to zoom in easily. The black dot is gone, the crease as well.
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The thing is Leon, if you enlarge the Bussineau card, you can see both. If you enlarge the Battlefield card, you can't see either. I know Battlefield has it so you can't enlarge the pic, but I have a touchscreen laptop that allows me to zoom in easily. The black dot is gone, the crease as well.

Ok, I Hadn't scrolled down to see the larger scan on ebay. I didn't realize there was one.
Yeah, they don't look to be there (wrinkle or dot) on those scans. By reading their recent feedback it looks like more of the same. ...
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I mentioned before that I traded messages and sure didn't get the feeling it was a woman communicating with me. Then again, I know women that talk like trucker's so I guess it's possible. The PayPal billing states Carol Battles. Could be a husband or son running it?
I doubt it's a woman. Men use their wife or girlfriend's name in their Paypal account, email and mailing address due to many reasons (tax purposes, hide their identity, etc.)
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I don't know, obviously, with a 100% certainty, but I think, if these Mantle's are anything like her previous cards, there will be some serious repercussions if these also turn out to be doctored.

This could, imo, be the beginning of the end for old battlefield,,,,,,,,,,hopefully!


...who in their right mind consigns a '52 Mantle to Battlefield .?


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It's not even a good photoshop job, you can clearly see where the touch-up was done. It's blurry in the area where the crease was. Who is going to receive this card and not loose their mind when they see it has a crease, maybe two? WTF are these people thinking?
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Ok, I Hadn't scrolled down to see the larger scan on ebay. I didn't realize there was one.
Yeah, they don't look to be there (wrinkle or dot) on those scans. By reading their recent feedback it looks like more of the same. ...
Lots of those recent ones are mine
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Who is going to receive this card and not loose their mind when they see it has a crease, maybe two? WTF are these people thinking?
My thoughts exactly. This isn't some run of the mill card. Nobody is spending this sort of money and will be content with what they receive.
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Whether it is photoshopped or not, PSA gave it the grade!!! Would you as seller go out on the limb to state that there are no creases on a graded card. I did it once and used the phrase "appears to have no creases" but wouldn't do it again.
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Who would spend that amount of dough on a card where you can't zoom the image?
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...who in their right mind consigns a '52 Mantle to Battlefield .?


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That is something I never even considered when it came to battlefield. I assumed she had these cards or purchased/puchases them from sellers looking to unload their collections.

Thinking people actually consign their cards to her never even crossed my mind.
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Mantle is still a good buy!! As for who is consigning, maybe they own the cards themselves? Just a wild guess on that though....
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Mantle is still a good buy!! As for who is consigning, maybe they own the cards themselves? Just a wild guess on that though....
It's funny, or odd, the bidders that are attracted to her auctions. Just looking at the bidders list, some of those people have been around for a while, or have purchased quite a bit over a period of time. So much so, imo, that one would think they would be wise to ole Battlefield?
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Again, stuff trumps all.

Didn't someone post her obituary a few months ago? It was posited that her family is still running the family business.
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Again, stuff trumps all.

Didn't someone post her obituary a few months ago? It was posited that her family is still running the family business.
If that is true, then, as they say, "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree"

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It's funny, or odd, the bidders that are attracted to her auctions. Just looking at the bidders list, some of those people have been around for a while, or have purchased quite a bit over a period of time. So much so, imo, that one would think they would be wise to ole Battlefield?
All anyone has to do is go find the legit and unaltered scan of the '52 Mantle to see what they will really get. At 20k, or close to it, it's not a bad buy.
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Well, if anybody cares, and I am sure the active bidders do, the '52 Mick went for a tad over $30,000 last night, which might be close to par when it is considered there is no buyers' premium and there no photo shopping done. The winning bidder, with over a thousand feedback is no rookie. Watch out for fireworks when he/she receives the card.
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I don't know, obviously, with a 100% certainty, but I think, if these Mantle's are anything like her previous cards, there will be some serious repercussions if these also turn out to be doctored.

This could, imo, be the beginning of the end for old battlefield,,,,,,,,,,hopefully!
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Well, if anybody cares, and I am sure the active bidders do, the '52 Mick went for a tad over $30,000 last night, which might be close to par when it is considered there is no buyers' premium and there no photo shopping done. The winning bidder, with over a thousand feedback is no rookie. Watch out for fireworks when he/she receives the card.
Like I said above, hopefully this is the beginning of the end for ole Battlefield?

Does anyone know the person who won the card? It's going to be interesting, like you mentioned, Yoda, when the person receives this card.
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I don't know, obviously, with a 100% certainty, but I think, if these Mantle's are anything like her previous cards, there will be some serious repercussions if these also turn out to be doctored.

This could, imo, be the beginning of the end for old battlefield,,,,,,,,,,hopefully!
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Like I said above, hopefully this is the beginning of the end for ole Battlefield?

Does anyone know the person who won the card? It's going to be interesting, like you mentioned, Yoda, when the person receives this card.
Well, I guess to avoid more unwanted attention, old Battlefield decided not to ship the card? Either that or she never had it in her possession to begin with?
What are the chances she is a member here or at least reads some/all of these posts?
I can't imagine this guy being too happy but I don't know what he can do about it?
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