In all the T206 back discussions I've never seen this question

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

How many different homogeneous back complete sets can be made. If you exclude the big 3, can complete sets be made of Piedmont 150 Factory 25 backs? Do you have to eliminate the series (150, 350, 350-450) to be able to complete a Piedmont 25 set? How many individual back variations have an example of every card, and how lenient do you have to be of series and factory numbers to make it work?

[trdcrdkid]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

How many different homogeneous back complete sets can be made. If you exclude the big 3, can complete sets be made of Piedmont 150 Factory 25 backs? Do you have to eliminate the series (150, 350, 350-450) to be able to complete a Piedmont 25 set? How many individual back variations have an example of every card, and how lenient do you have to be of series and factory numbers to make it work?

T206resource.com has checklists for all the different backs, here:

http://t206resource.com/Checklist%20Main.html

No back brand has all the fronts, but I think Piedmont (factory 25) comes closes, if you combine the 150, 350, and 460 varieties. Ted Z would know about this, since I believe he has an all-Piedmont set. To answer your specific question, there are only 156 different fronts with Piedmont 150 Factory 25 backs:

http://t206resource.com/Piedmont%20150%20Checklist.html

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

that almost takes all the fun out of it. great resource, thanks.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

How many different homogeneous back complete sets can be made. If you exclude the big 3, can complete sets be made of Piedmont 150 Factory 25 backs? Do you have to eliminate the series (150, 350, 350-450) to be able to complete a Piedmont 25 set? How many individual back variations have an example of every card, and how lenient do you have to be of series and factory numbers to make it work?

Originally Posted by trdcrdkid

No back brand has all the fronts, but I think Piedmont (factory 25) comes closes, if you combine the 150, 350, and 460 varieties. Ted Z would know about this, since I believe he has an all-Piedmont set. To answer your specific question, there are only 156 different fronts with Piedmont 150 Factory 25 backs:

Hi Scott
Yes, your question has been addressed many years ago.

Having completed (minus Doyle, Plank and Wagner) an all-PIEDMONT (Factory #25) brand set of T206's confirms all 522 subjects in the set are included with the PIEDMONT back.
Note....the Demmitt & O'Hara (St Louis) variations were printed only with POLAR BEAR backs.

Any other T206 tobacco back (SWEET CAPORAL, SOVEREIGN, etc.) set falls short of this number.

For example, my completed (minus Wagner) all-SWEET CAPORAL (Factory #30) set comprises of 468 cards.

And, my completed all-SOVEREIGN set comprises of 402 cards.


TED Z
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[Aquarian Sports Cards]

very cool. that was exactly what I was wondering.

[HobokenJon]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Scott
Yes, your question has been addressed many years ago.

Having completed (minus Doyle, Plank and Wagner) an all-PIEDMONT (Factory #25) brand set of T206's confirms all 522 subjects in the set are included with the PIEDMONT back.
Note....the Demmitt & O'Hara (St Louis) variations were printed only with POLAR BEAR backs.

Any other T206 tobacco back (SWEET CAPORAL, SOVEREIGN, etc.) set falls short of this number.

For example, my completed (minus Wagner) all-SWEET CAPORAL (Factory #30) set comprises of 468 cards.

And, my completed all-SOVEREIGN set comprises of 402 cards.


TED Z
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Ted, could you please explain what you mean when you say your all-Sovereign set has 402 cards? There are 484 Sovereign cards in all, according to T206 Resource. That includes 150 Sov 150 subjects, 216 Sov 350 forest-green subjects, 66 Sov 350 apple green subjects, and 52 Sov 460 subjects.

[sreader3]

I should let Ted speak for himself but I don't think he double-counts the 150/350 guys who are available with both Sov 150 and Sov 350. That may account for the difference.

[HobokenJon]

Is it a complete Sovereign set if it lacks some of the Sovereign cards? What's the consensus? The six super-prints come in both Sov 460 and Sov 350 apple green. So that's another handful of cards where there's overlap between the different Sovereign series.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by HobokenJon

Ted, could you please explain what you mean when you say your all-Sovereign set has 402 cards? There are 484 Sovereign cards in all, according to T206 Resource. That includes 150 Sov 150 subjects, 216 Sov 350 forest-green subjects, 66 Sov 350 apple green subjects, and 52 Sov 460 subjects.

Jon

A complete basic all-SOVEREIGN set consists of 402 different T206 subjects. This is the set that I originally put together in 2007.

When you include the 6 super-prints (on display here) with their SOVEREIGN 460 backs, plus the repeated 150 series cards (76) with their SOVEREIGN 350 backs,
you then have a complete Master SOVEREIGN set totaling 484 cards.



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Thanks Scot for your support.


TED Z
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[HobokenJon]

Ah, got it. Many thanks, Ted.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by trdcrdkid

T206resource.com has checklists for all the different backs, here:

http://t206resource.com/Checklist%20Main.html

No back brand has all the fronts, but I think Piedmont (factory 25) comes closes, if you combine the 150, 350, and 460 varieties. Ted Z would know about this, since I believe he has an all-Piedmont set. To answer your specific question, there are only 156 different fronts with Piedmont 150 Factory 25 backs:

http://t206resource.com/Piedmont%20150%20Checklist.html

The Plank and Wagner in piedmont 150 were unissued, bringing that down to 154. They are scraps.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

The Plank and Wagner in piedmont 150 were unissued, bringing that down to 154. They are scraps.

Nevertheless, Wagner and Plank were printed with PIEDMONT 150 backs. And, do we really know if the few PIEDMONT Wagner's were issued or not ?

Incidentally, the famous (or infamous) Gretzky Wagner is a PIEDMONT 150 card.


TED Z
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[Sean]

If the story about the Gretzky Wagner being cut from a sheet is true, that would still make it a scrap.

[Pat R]

There is also this Plank
http://www.goodwinandco.com/lot-19549.aspx

that led to different opinions in this thread
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=149071