Another T206 set "Completed"

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I now join the recent club of happy guys who have "completed" this set.
This is my 2nd T206 set that I've put together. My 1st set I considered
complete when I finally acquired Magie to make it 521 cards. Back then a
Vg card of Magie was available for less than $1000. And, the Joe Doyle
variation was unknown.

This 2nd set I do consider complete with 520 cards. I'm not going to pursue
Magie this time because spending lots of $$$$ for an "i" instead of an "e"
in a BB player's name doesn't excite me anymore.

Instead, this time I have wisely spent my $$ by acquiring all the different
Tobacco Adv. backs. I have the 16 basic backs and most of the Factory
variations for a total of 32 different backs. I think there are only 2 more
backs that I am missing.

And No, I do not have a Ty Cobb back since I do not consider this card
as a real T206 issue.

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Posted By: T206Collector

It's nice to share this accomplishment with other Board members.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Thanx T206 Collector

About a week ago you posted your "mission accomplished" Thread and
you inquired about how many board members have completed T206 sets.
So, I am responding to your inquiry.

I no longer have my 1st set. This new set's overall condition exceeds
the previous one's. And, as I said, I am more proud of this one since
I have just about all the possible Tobacco backs that exist in addition
to the 520 different cards in the set.

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Posted By: T206Collector

...that three Board members finished the set in the same week. There must be an awful lot of T206 sets out there. That should drive the price of T206 cards down. I mean, the sheer number of T206 cards on ebay right now is astronomical compared with other pre-war issues. But the prices seem to keep rising. I wonder if the market for T206 will ever dry up.

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Thats quite an accomplishment Ted and not one too many people who collected the set would venture to do again,especially because the 2nd time it will cost more.I too have the 521 set complete and know i have over 130 extras,some triples.Ive thought about trying it again,but for now the only ones i get are upgrades....maybe someday,at least i have a great headstart

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

John

You are absolutely right, not too many would venture to
put together a 2nd set of T206 cards, nowadays. But, I did
it and it was at least twice as expensive as my first one,
and four times as much fun; since I had been there before.

John, it sounds like you are a 1/4 of the way to a 2nd set.
You have to go for it.....you have to join the "double T206
Set Club".

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Posted By: john/z28jd

I dont know the exact list of doubles i have so by March i'll get that list together and you bring a bunch of cards to Ft Washington and ill be sure to use my VBC Members 10% off card at your table to help fill that wantlist.

The 2nd set could be pretty costly if its upgrades but im sure of one thing,it wont include a Magie or rare backs,altho i have Lenox and Broadleaf doubles already

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Hey John....you get at least a 25% discount on T-cards
at my booth. And, bring your extra Broadleaf and Lenox
backs and whatever other T206 cards, so we can trade.

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Posted By: barry arnold

Congratulations, T Rex Ted.

Quite an accomplishment, among many others in your life!

all the best,

herbivore tbarry

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Barry

Thanx for the nice comments. And, I am curious how did you become a
"herbivore" ?

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Posted By: barry arnold

TRex Ted,

I stopped red meat and pork around 15 years ago---gives the ole dinosaur a

125 cholesterol. And the only thing i miss are those BLT's my dad used to

make for me when i was a boy---on that white sunbeam toast, gobs of mayonaisse, and about a half pound of bacon---as i put those Dalrymple's in
my bike spokes.

all the best,

herbivore tBarry

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Mr T206Collector....or anyone else

My understanding of all the possible T206 back variations (Factorys)
on the 16 basic Tobacco Advertisements total 38.

Is this correct ?

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Posted By: T206Collector

1. Old Mill (Southern League - Double Overprints) - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY
2. Old Mill (Southern League - Overprint) - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY
3. Ty Cobb - Factory 33 - District 4 - State NC
4. Old Mill (Brown) - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
5. Broad Leaf - Series 460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
6. Lenox (Brown) - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
7. Drum - Series 350- Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
8. Uzit - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
9. Hindu (Red) - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY
10. Piedmont - Series 350-460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC
11. Blank Back
12. Lenox (Black) - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
13. Broad Leaf - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
14. Carolina Brights - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
15. Hindu (Brown) - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY
16. American Beauty - Series 460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC
17. Cycle - Series 460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
18. Tolstoi - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
19. El Principe De Gales - Factory 17 - District 2 - State VA
20. Sovereign - Series 460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
21. American Beauty (no Frame) - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
22. American Beauty (with Frame) - Series 350- Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
23. Cycle - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
24. Old Mill (Southern League) - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
25. Sweet Caporal - Series 350-460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
26. Old Mill (Black) - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
27. Sovereign - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
28. Sweet Caporal (Overprint) - Series 150 - Factory 649 - District 1 - State NY
29. Sweet Caporal (Overprint) - Series 350-460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC
30. Sweet Caporal - Series 350-460 - Factory 42 - District 4 - State NC
31. Sovereign - Series 150 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
32. Polar Bear - Factory 6 - District 1 - State OH
33. Sweet Caporal - Series 150 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
34. Sweet Caporal - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
35. Piedmont - Series 150 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
36. Sweet Caporal - Series 150 - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
37. Sweet Caporal - Series 350-460 - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
38. Piedmont - Series 350-460 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA
39. Sweet Caporal - Series 350 - Factory 30 - District 2 - State NY
40. Piedmont - Series 350 - Factory 25 - District 2 - State VA

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Posted By: JimB

Anyone want to take a stab at the order just based on brands? Here is my guess off the top of my head.

1.Ty Cobb
2.Drum
3.Uzit
4.Lenox
5.Broadleaf
6.Carolina Brights
7.Hindu (Red is obviously much tougher than brown and probably than CBs and Broadleaf)
8.EPDG
9.Sovereign
10.American Beauty
11.Tolstoi
12.Cycle
13.Old Mill
14.Polar Bear
15.Sweet Caporal
16.Piedmont

JimB

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Posted By: Bryan

When you complete a set do you buy cards graded by a certain company, ungraded cards, or just anything you can find.

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Posted By: JimB

When I was working on my set, I was mostly buying ungraded cards - at least for the commons. I accumulated most of my set before the advent of ebay and grading. But even the last 100 or so I bought in this way at shows and from dealers that I knew and trusted. In the past ten years or so, the HOFs and more expensive cards that I bought were graded. But I like having the majority of my set ugraded so that I can flip through a notebook and look at them. For all the graded cards I have made color photocopies and put them in the appropriate place in the notebook.
JimB

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Posted By: Scot

Congratulations!!
Truely a great set and accomplishment.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Bryan

To answer your question, I have bought or traded for all
the cards in my set from either dealers I trust, or "walk-
in" collections at the only two Shows I set up at (Ft. Wash-
ington and Cooperstown). All 520 cards were UN-GRADED
when I acquired them.

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Posted By: T206Collector

...any which way I can find them and then have the VG and up cards graded by SGC. I also will have HOF and SL cards graded by SGC in conditions under VG. I like to have nice scans of the fronts on the SGC registry, so anytime I want to look at them I can just go there. I am also going to eventually upload scans of all of my cards to a website like photobucket so I can view my entire collection from anywhere in the world.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

T206 Collector

I really appreciate all that work you went through to list
the 40 Backs. I still need 5 of them to have a complete
run .

Thanks much, T-Rex Ted

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Posted By: Bob

I have a "set" (520) of T206s in creaseless condition and have only 6 of the listed 16 brands on the backs. Can anyone beat that?

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Posted By: john/z28jd

My "set" only has 13 of the 15 brand backs,the other 2 brands (Drum and Uzit) are not part of my set,theyre in with the extras and in fact my extras have all 15 brand backs,does that beat you Bob?

When i was collecting backs way back when i was about 1/4 done with the set i made sure i got doubles of all the players on front of the tough backs in case i ever made a display with all 15 brand backs.So now my set has 13 backs but since i only have one Drum and Uzit thats why theyre not in with the set

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

Sweet Cap 460 Factory 25 that was listed in another thread is part of the way up the list maybe it should be higher up?, certainly more SLers w/OM backs than SC460 25's

Lee

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Posted By: Bob

John- What I meant, with tongue firmly in cheek, is that I completed the set without a single back which is a "premium" back. Don't know if there are any others out there which don't have at least one Carolina Brights or an EPG or a Hindu, much less Drum, Uzit or Lennox...
Bob

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Posted By: Bill

I have to agree with Lee about the fact that the Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 25 should be higher on the scarcity list. My set is 99% (519) complete and I don't have one Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 25. I have 35 Old Mill Southern Leaguers, 23 American Beauty, 11 Cycle, 11 EPDG, 7 Tolstoi, 2 Hindu, 1 Carolina Brights, 2 Broadleaf, and 17 Sovereign 460, of which, all of these backs are higher on the T206 Museum scarcity list. Maybe their list should be reevaluated.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Bill and Lee

I didn't have a tough time finding a Sweet Caporal 350-460, Factory 25.
But, I am not saying it isn't tough, I guess I was just lucky.

I need only 5 - Factory variations to have a complete run of the 40 dif-
ferent backs. Then I will have what I consider a "complete" set of 520
plus 40 = 560 T206 cards (in Excellent or better).

One exception, my DRUM back is only in Fair condition. I acquired it from
Barry Sloate about 18 years ago.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

tbob

OK, my just completed 520 card T206 set comprises no more than 6 basic
Tobacco brands [Piedmont, Sweet Caporal, Sovereign, Polar Bear, Old Mill,
and Hindu (So. Lgrs.] And, all 520 are "creaseless" (Ex or better).

My other 9 basic Tobacco brands and their color and Factory # variations
are in a separate collection which at the present totals 35 diff. varieties;
and,at least 52 duplicates.

T-Rex Ted

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Posted By: Harrison

Hey, I'm gonna complete the T206 set at one time. Im only 14 and I already have 47 of them. They are so cool and I am gonna get the whole 524 card set b4 Im dead.

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Posted By: JimB

Harrison,
You are well on your way! I only had 2 T206s when I was your age, but I completed mine last year at age 37. You will be much younger.
Good luck,
JimB

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Posted By: Nelson Audet

for my part i have 24 years old and i'm just begin to build my set. Congratulation for your second set.
Nelson

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Posted By: jay behrens

Zach has another contemporary. Welcome aboard.

Jay

I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: Jorge

Congratulations on completing your 2nd set. How long did it take most of you to complete it ?

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Posted By: Zach Smith

I just started collection 206's within the last year or so. I'm up to about 60 now. I'm only 25 so I figure I have plenty of time to catch the entire set. I was just wondering if any of you guys who talk about having a complete set with a lot of doubles or triples of some of the cards would be willing to part with any? If so, let me know... I'm really interested in obtaining most of the commons due to the fact that I'm in the Navy and don't have the money to spend on the more expensive HOF's. I try to pick them up as I get a little extra $$$. Also, since this thread originally started about the back variations, I figured I put this link up: www.t206museum.com It's got alot of good info about 206's (backs, variations, etc.)
Thanks,
Zach

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Posted By: Joe P.

Jorge
(Login T207) Re: Another T206 set "Completed" January 25 2006, 4:56 PM

"Congratulations on completing your 2nd set. How long did it take most of you to complete it ?"
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Jorge, it's a piece of cake.
It only takes as long as YOU want.

As I understand it, all you have to do when you reach that glacial terminal moraine in front of you, the unclimbable side of Mt Everest, the unreachable stars.

All you have to do is say:
IT'S FINISHED!

By that time, it isn't hard to say that you're finished.
By that time, you're in your ninties and you want it to be finished before you are.
The hard part is trying to erase the names of those you know are in the complete set.
Nature has a way to help you.
By that time, your memory starts to play games with you.
It's almost a blessing.
It's the first thing to go ...... or is it the second?

There are a few on this forum that have mastered that game ahead of time.

Frankly, I don't have a problem saying that I have an incomplete set, missing the Wagner.
I've given it my best shot, and the ride has been a fun and enjoyable ride.
To this collector, the bottom line is the hunt, the search, the joy of filling a slot.

It has always been a hobby, a sublimation, an escape from the realities around us.
Keeping it that way has worked for me.
If I were to make it a job, it would defeat my purpose.
To each his own, I'm just talking about my fun ride of an incomplete set.

Go For It Jorge!
And forget about "the Stinkin Completion Badge".

Joe Pelaez

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Posted By: Martin Neal

Congratulations Ted, twice!

I have been working on mine going on twenty years (with a 10 year hiatus). I will continue to try to finish it. Who knows, that house I am remodeling in Petersburg has got to have a Wagner stuffed somewhere in the attic