Is CC Sabathia a Hall of Famer?

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by Sogcollector

Not sure but IMO Kershaw is far from a HOF and will likely barely make it to 200 wins, much less 250. Too many miles on that elbow.

3 Cy Young awards, an MVP award, 7x All-Star, career winning percentage is essentially .700, career ERA of 2.41, a career WAR of 65+ in 12 years. Even if he has a career ending injury tomorrow those numbers dictate he is in... right now!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

3 Cy Young awards, an MVP award, 7x All-Star, career winning percentage is essentially .700, career ERA of 2.41, a career WAR of 65+ in 12 years. Even if he has a career ending injury tomorrow those numbers dictate he is in... right now!

Lock. No question. It's just a damn shame his post-season performance has been such a relative disappointment. Otherwise, a generational pitcher, and by all indications a fine individual as well.

[sycks22]

100% lock. Top 5 pitcher for a decade, Cy Young. On a side note I'm pretty sure his pants could be used as a parachute if the team plane went down.

[alaskapaul3]

The easy thing to do would be to have automatic HOF qualifications like they do in Japan. 250W 3000Ks and 500 saves jump off of the page, but the cheaters have ruined that.

But CC is a lock for the HOF and with 3 or 4 more good seasons Kershaw is a first ballot HOF

[Jim65]

CC is borderline, he'll get in, not first ballot though.

[MVSNYC]

Yes, he's a HOFer. Dominant. And as mentioned above, 250 is the new 300...just as 600 is the new 500 in the HR category. (See what I did there?)

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Yes, he's a HOFer. Dominant. And as mentioned above, 250 is the new 300...just as 600 is the new 500 in the HR category. (See what I did there?)

If Bartolo had won 3 more would he get in, with his 4.12 lifetime ERA? I doubt it. I think it's still an overall assessment, but I agree CC should make it.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

3 Cy Young awards, an MVP award, 7x All-Star, career winning percentage is essentially .700, career ERA of 2.41, a career WAR of 65+ in 12 years. Even if he has a career ending injury tomorrow those numbers dictate he is in... right now!

+1 - Add in 9.7 Ks per 9 innings; an even “1” WHIP; a 4.27 K/BB ratio and 11 consecutive seasons of a sub-3.00 ERA (of which 3 of those were sub-2.00)! His regular season numbers are uncanny and possibly merit him a top 10 pitcher status.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Hall of Stats rates Kershaw as 28th all time which again seems about right to me. Interestingly, he rates MUCH higher than Koufax to whom he is often compared.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Hall of Stats rates Kershaw as 28th all time which again seems about right to me. Interestingly, he rates MUCH higher than Koufax to whom he is often compared.

Kershaw compares to his contemporaries much better than Koufax does to his.

Koufax was dominant and put up great numbers in an era when pitchers put up much better numbers than they do today.

Kershaw put up similar numbers to Koufax in an era where pitchers put up far inferior numbers.

And I'm a MASSIVE Koufax fan.