Its not just moser/pwcc...more trimmers exposed

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'll make it easy. Any conviction at all. I don't care if it's for unpaid library fines.

Edited to add: But there has to be a time limit. Within one year?

An indictment is not a conviction, nor is a year a realistic timeframe for a federal investigation.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

An indictment is not a conviction, nor is a year a realistic timeframe for a federal investigation.

Right. My bad. I said indictment, that's the bet.

If a year is not sufficient, why are people so concerned about the upcoming National, as if something big (arrests is what I believe was alluded to) is going to happen there?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Right. My bad. I said indictment, that's the bet.

If a year is not sufficient, why are people so concerned about the upcoming National, as if something big (arrests is what I believe was alluded to) is going to happen there?

I have no idea, you'll have to ask them. Maybe they're expecting to see some confrontations with PWCC, Beckett, PSA, etc. Maybe by then subpoenas could be served. Not sure.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

It's, to me, very similar to a situation in poker a few years back where a previous WSOP Main Event winner was founder of a poker site that was later discovered to be actively cheating the players by giving him and anyone he designated super-user status where they could see the other players cards.

By the online reaction you'd have thought He would've been risking death if he showed his face at the WSOP ever again. When he did there were a few snide remarks, but the internet vigilantes were, amazingly, nowhere to be found.

This has nothing to do with law enforcement issues, but with the internet muscles that people think will lead to live confrontation at an industry event.

[Goudey77]

Fun facts...you guys realize there are over 10,000 members on Net54 and hey guess what? I see the same handful of guys talking about the same thing on multiple threads. It’s very possible the other 9,990 members have differing opinions. So where is this going to lead us...I’ll give 9,990 : 1 odds that someone starts another thread related to the same topic.

Take a vacation and enjoy the rest of your holiday weekend!

[calvindog]

Martin, you’re aware that trying to stop discussion about Brent’s fraud wouldn’t stop a criminal investigation, right? Just checking.

[swarmee]

Come on, Martin is all sunshine and roses.

[Willjaimet]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Martin, you’re aware that trying to stop discussion about Brent’s fraud wouldn’t stop a criminal investigation, right? Just checking.

From what I’ve heard Jeffrey, you’re the one who needs to be investigated. I’d chill out on casting stones from your glass house. I know what you did and you’re a total piece of garbage. I’m not going to expose it here because it’s not my issue but you are a dispicable human and deserve to spend the rest of your days in a box.

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

Fun facts...you guys realize there are over 10,000 members on Net54 and hey guess what? I see the same handful of guys talking about the same thing on multiple threads. It’s very possible the other 9,990 members have differing opinions. So where is this going to lead us...I’ll give 9,990 : 1 odds that someone starts another thread related to the same topic.

Take a vacation and enjoy the rest of your holiday weekend!

Most of us who belong to Net54 are content with our low grade raw T206's and T213's. My guess is that there are only a few dozen people on this forum who give a rat's ass about a trimmed $5000 Giannis rookie.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Most of us who belong to Net54 are content with our low grade raw T206's and T213's. My guess is that there are only a few dozen people on this forum who give a rat's ass about a trimmed $5000 Giannis rookie.

Thats a good point. Ive been collecting since the mid 70’s...ive never been too condition sensitive in my collecting...sure i like a crease free card with decent centering. This is where my condition discrimination ends. My meager collection brings me happiness and wont be much affected by a grading scandal. Im a manchild of principles...i have a high moral compass. Thieves/crooks should be
Punished if/when caught. This is where i stand.

[aconte]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Most of us who belong to Net54 are content with our low grade raw T206's and T213's. My guess is that there are only a few dozen people on this forum who give a rat's ass about a trimmed $5000 Giannis rookie.

Hopefully, more people here care about the VG 3 Green Ruth, Psa 1.5 to 2
T227 Cobb, and the Red T206 Cobb that went from 1.5 to 3 that have been
shown as possibly bad on blowout. These are just a few I found this morning.

[BengoughingForAwhile]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Most of us who belong to Net54 are content with our low grade raw T206's and T213's. My guess is that there are only a few dozen people on this forum who give a rat's ass about a trimmed $5000 Giannis rookie.

Who is this Giannis you speak of?

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

Fun facts...you guys realize there are over 10,000 members on Net54 and hey guess what? I see the same handful of guys talking about the same thing on multiple threads. It’s very possible the other 9,990 members have differing opinions. So where is this going to lead us...I’ll give 9,990 : 1 odds that someone starts another thread related to the same topic.

Take a vacation and enjoy the rest of your holiday weekend!

What exactly is the "differing opinion" from the "handful of guys talking about the same thing?" Fraud is a good thing?

Edd*e Sm*th

[kateighty]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

What exactly is the "differing opinion" from the "handful of guys talking about the same thing?" Fraud is a good thing?

Edd*e Sm*th

Yes! What you have in quotes is exactly why I decided to come back here. I agree with the majority of guys here. Except I'm a chick. So make that a handful of guys and one chick. Though I do believe it is important to have an open platform to share differing opinions.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

Fun facts...you guys realize there are over 10,000 members on Net54 and hey guess what? I see the same handful of guys talking about the same thing on multiple threads. It’s very possible the other 9,990 members have differing opinions. So where is this going to lead us...I’ll give 9,990 : 1 odds that someone starts another thread related to the same topic.

Take a vacation and enjoy the rest of your holiday weekend!

Would love to hear from them....

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

It's, to me, very similar to a situation in poker a few years back where a previous WSOP Main Event winner was founder of a poker site that was later discovered to be actively cheating the players by giving him and anyone he designated super-user status where they could see the other players cards.

By the online reaction you'd have thought He would've been risking death if he showed his face at the WSOP ever again. When he did there were a few snide remarks, but the internet vigilantes were, amazingly, nowhere to be found.

This has nothing to do with law enforcement issues, but with the internet muscles that people think will lead to live confrontation at an industry event.

You're confusing what happened at ultimate bet and absolute poker with the full tilt scandal. Full tilt basically stole player funds and didn't have the money to pay players when the government effectively made these sites illegal in the US. Furgeson and Lederer are believed to be involved but did not have access to anyone's hole cards.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

You're confusing what happened at ultimate bet and absolute poker with the full tilt scandal. Full tilt basically stole player funds and didn't have the money to pay players when the government effectively made these sites illegal in the US. Furgeson and Lederer are believed to be involved but did not have access to anyone's hole cards.

Not confusing anything. My entire post was about Russ Hamilton.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Not confusing anything. My entire post was about Russ Hamilton.

I didn't realize he played the wsop again. I know no one was pleased when the full tilt guys showed up.