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Old 08-14-2019, 06:34 AM
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until something changes.

I'm not going to be the next guy to find out that the PSA 10 he paid $35,000 for was actually a PSA 7 last year and sold somewhere for $900. Nah. Not going there. Not going to be me. And frankly I don't have enough hours or the desire to do an archeological dive every time I want to buy a card.
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Old 08-14-2019, 06:47 AM
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Low grade cards are all the rage now....From our BST a few days ago....

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Old 08-14-2019, 06:54 AM
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great card leon. as someone in the auto service biz that one really hits home.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:09 AM
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Is wheel (read “real”) alignment a necessary precursor to being “well centered”?

After all, linguistically there ain’t much difference between a car doctor and a card doctor.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:14 AM
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Ha, that is indeed an awesome card. Yes, unique and ungraded may be the place to go for piece of mind and some kicks.

I also wonder if the card grading shenanigans won't push up the memorabilia and photo part of the hobby. (Not that I am naive enough to imagine that's without fraud.)

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Old 08-14-2019, 07:46 AM
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I always, since I rejoined the hobby back in 2016, wanted to have a 8,9 or 10 1952 Topps card just to have one but since this scandal broke that desire is all but gone.

Luckily for me, I guess, I was limited to funds and focused, mainly, on raw cards.

90-95 percent of my cards in my FlickR and Net54 links below are raw and I will most likely keep them that way and will most likely continue purchasing raw cards going forward.
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Old 08-14-2019, 02:57 PM
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until something changes.

I'm not going to be the next guy to find out that the PSA 10 he paid $35,000 for was actually a PSA 7 last year and sold somewhere for $900. Nah. Not going there. Not going to be me. And frankly I don't have enough hours or the desire to do an archeological dive every time I want to buy a card.
Good luck in whatever hobby you choose next!
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:01 PM
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I collect raw, but may put on clothes this Fall.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:10 PM
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I collect raw, but may put on clothes this Fall.
This would be a card that would never be on my want list.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:29 PM
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I collect raw, but may put on clothes this Fall.
Ufta...
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Old 08-14-2019, 06:28 PM
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:32 PM
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"I always stuck to AUTH or 1s or 2s, so none of this card doctoring ever mattered to me."

When I discovered this site 15 or so years ago, I saw that many board members were warning about the high number of trimmed cards in high-end holders. I made the choice back then to stick to cards that look nice, but grade poorly.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:58 PM
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I'll stay raw thank you..
Very nice!

Here's a few of mine. Some were given to me by my father and some I purchased.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:35 PM
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Your a big boy and its your decision...Glad you shared.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:12 PM
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I always stuck to AUTH or 1s or 2s, so none of this card doctoring ever mattered to me. I am and always have been, in it for the collecting aspect. The greed that made everyone chase 8s, 9s and 10s has finally caught up to some folks!! It's now time to come back to earth with us bottom feeders, and let the hobby steer back into collecting mode, rather than investment portfolio mode.
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:54 AM
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Me really can not beleive the ca$h-ola you guys spend on these cards! I will be on the beach watching yall surf it up I guess!

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Old 08-30-2019, 09:16 PM
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Default Here's an example of what I THOUGHT was a 68' Ryan RC in a PSA 8

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until something changes.

I'm not going to be the next guy to find out that the PSA 10 he paid $35,000 for was actually a PSA 7 last year and sold somewhere for $900. Nah. Not going there. Not going to be me. And frankly I don't have enough hours or the desire to do an archeological dive every time I want to buy a card.

Here's an example of what I THOUGHT was a 68' Ryan RC in a PSA
8 Turns out it was switched with an inferior Ryan RC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmk_xBp2aq4&t=9s
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Old 08-31-2019, 06:56 AM
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Here's an example of what I THOUGHT was a 68' Ryan RC in a PSA
8 Turns out it was switched with an inferior Ryan RC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmk_xBp2aq4&t=9s
Well, the good news is PSA detected the slab alteration.

Reading all these threads, seems that expert trimming is more of a problem for them to detect.
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Old 08-31-2019, 08:19 PM
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Default Here's an example of what I THOUGHT was a 68' Ryan RC in a PSA

@BXB, yea I was lucky cause I held onto the card for a couple months, sent it to PSA to get re-holdered and they took a couple weeks upon receipt to get back to me.

But luckily PSA had instances of the ole switcheroo happening to other customers so they provided me with all the documents to dispute the original seller if it came to that.

Let's say that I now double & triple check any slabs that I get for case alterations
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