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View Poll Results: Which record will be the hardest to break?
Barry Bonds - 73 HR in one season 2 0.43%
Ty Cobb - .366 Career Batting Average 23 4.95%
Walter Johnson - 110 Career Shutouts 43 9.25%
Joe DiMaggio - 56 Game Hitting Streak 28 6.02%
Cal Ripken, Jr. - 2,632 Consecutive Games Played 40 8.60%
Pete Rose - 4,256 Career Hits 5 1.08%
Nolan Ryan - 5,714 Career Strikeouts 8 1.72%
Cy Young - 511 Career Wins 286 61.51%
New York Giants - 26 Game Unbeaten Streak 0 0%
The record I am thinking of isn’t listed here. 30 6.45%
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:37 PM
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Another to add would be breaking Johnny Vander Meer's record of throwing two consecutive no-hitters.
Agreed.
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:41 PM
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I actually think Cy has two records that will never be broken, his total career losses, and total career complete games. As someone else mentioned, there is a possibility that some pitcher gets close to his career wins total of 511 but, what team would keep sending out a pitcher who loses over 300 games like Cy did? No one will the way the game is played now, especially with the dollars paid to starting pitchers. That person will end up in the bullpen or the minors before ever getting close.

And as for career complete games, didn't Cy pitch something like 749 complete games out of the 815 he started in his career? As someone else pointed out, the way that pitchers are handled today and kept on pitch counts, if a top pitcher has even 2 or 3 complete games a year, that is a big deal. But 749 for an entire career, that will never happen again. Think about it, if a pitcher had 10 complete games pitched a year, it would take them 75 years to equal Cy's record. You have to go back to 2011 and James Shields for the last pitcher to even reach 10 complete games in one season (he had 11), and before that back to 1999 and Randy Johnson with 12 complete games. And even then, Cy's got over 100 more than Pud Galvin who's 2nd on the all time complete game list.

Neither one of these will ever even be approached.

On all these other records, like the hit streak, no-hitters in a row, consecutive games played, those are obtainable even though highly unlikely. Designated hitters don't have to play in the field and could play for a long time if they tried. Pitchers and batters can get hot and go on crazy streaks, even DiMaggio's hit streak can be approached one day. Heck, Altuve might make a run at it in the next couple of years even. The one comment about triples is interesting and very tough also but, that is more a function of the way they build ballparks nowadays. You don't have the huge open expanses from the early playing fields they had at a lot of old ballparks back in the day. They're more like bandboxes now and too small to get around to 3rd on most of the time. Still, I think Cy has the two most impossible to break of all.

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Agreed.
Absolutely right about Vander Meer....

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Has anyone said "most perfect world series games in a day?"

In my honest opinion it is probably Young's 500wins or Ryan's 5700 SOs. I don't think any teams would let pitchers play often enough to get close to those records, even if they were consistent enough. The last person to get 400wins was Johnson in 1920. No one will get that unless the way teams manage pitching changes drastically.

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