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Old 07-06-2023, 12:13 PM
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SGC said I can no longer use USPS to ship back the cards....and guys, I REFUSE to use FedEx....I have heard too many horror stories about how they treat collectibles and all the porch pirates stealing their packages. I refuse. So this most recent sub will be the last one for them.
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Old 07-06-2023, 12:42 PM
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Interesting that you’ve had problems with the pirates. Usually my shipments coming from the grading shop requires an adult signature. But maybe that’s only a feature on some shipments. And maybe not on SGC’s shipments?

Obviously if the shipper doesn’t handle your package well, then no amount of signature required will make up for that feature.
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Old 07-06-2023, 12:50 PM
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Interesting that you’ve had problems with the pirates. Usually my shipments coming from the grading shop requires an adult signature. But maybe that’s only a feature on some shipments. And maybe not on SGC’s shipments?

Obviously if the shipper doesn’t handle your package well, then no amount of signature required will make up for that feature.
I would bet anything SGC requires a signature or they would upon request.
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I would bet anything SGC requires a signature or they would upon request.
I'm never home when those guys deliver. And it is a major inconveince for me to go to their office to pick up packages. With USPS, it is sooooo easy. I go to the PO Box during lunch.
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Old 07-06-2023, 01:15 PM
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SGC said I can no longer use USPS to ship back the cards....and guys, I REFUSE to use FedEx....I have heard too many horror stories about how they treat collectibles and all the porch pirates stealing their packages. I refuse. So this most recent sub will be the last one for them.
Subs are a pain in the ass just to start with - The Grading Company adding additional hoops to jump through on the return = NFL (Not For Long)

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Old 07-06-2023, 01:30 PM
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I'm never home when those guys deliver. And it is a major inconveince for me to go to their office to pick up packages. With USPS, it is sooooo easy. I go to the PO Box during lunch.
Well that's a different reason than the one you gave.
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Well that's a different reason than the one you gave.
LOL! Well Robert loves the dramatic posts. We gotta give him that, no? He could use Fed Ex and do a Hold For Pick Up at any local Fed Ex office and have it require a signature to boot.
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LOL! Well Robert loves the dramatic posts. We gotta give him that, no? He could use Fed Ex and do a Hold For Pick Up at any local Fed Ex office and have it require a signature to boot.
Completely agree.

In my experience it's USPS that I've had bad luck with (too many to count), and FedEx the most luck with. A nearby Walgreens has a FedEx pack and ship inside so that is even more convenient. Neither are inconvenient to pickup, but I'm usually home and don't miss the deliveries.
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I'm never home when those guys deliver. And it is a major inconveince for me to go to their office to pick up packages. With USPS, it is sooooo easy. I go to the PO Box during lunch.
Can your local Post Office accommodate FedEx and UPS shipments? Maybe my local Post Office is unique, but I have a PO Box which is also tied to a physical street address for situations like this.
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I think since Bobby takes on a buttload of inconvenience to run these group subs that is okay for him to cut out the shipping companies that irk him.

I also support USPS. Before I moved, my local FedEx hub was 90 minutes away. I hated using FedEx.

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Fed ex sucks but their hold at location program isn’t bad. You can have it held at a Walgreens which is open early/late for no cost.

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I think since Bobby takes on a buttload of inconvenience to run these group subs that is okay for him to cut out the shipping companies that irk him.

I also support USPS. Before I moved, my local FedEx hub was 90 minutes away. I hated using FedEx.

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Living in a small podunk town with all three delivery services, the one common theme here is bad weather, not porch pirates, traffic and burned out staff. In a place where there is zero shopping, everything from pet supplies to clothes to...yup, baseball cards, are moved by shipping orgs. Best service: USPS, where the only local shipper is the P O. The other players are a pain and not helpful, so we use a drop n ship store. Never had a problem at all, so my opinion does not apply to the City.

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USPS will is implementing a you must have insurance on your package program stating next week.
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Old 07-06-2023, 07:29 PM
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I'm sorry for the rant guys....where I come from, the customer is always right....well...not always....but if you have a guy whose only stipulation is that his packages get sent back USPS, why on earth would you not try to accomodate him??????? Seems like a no brainer to me.....especially when our group is spending thousands of dollars per pop.
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Old 07-06-2023, 07:45 PM
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I'm sorry for the rant guys....where I come from, the customer is always right....well...not always....but if you have a guy whose only stipulation is that his packages get sent back USPS, why on earth would you not try to accomodate him??????? Seems like a no brainer to me.....especially when our group is spending thousands of dollars per pop.
Bobby, I don't care if you ship via pack mule out of New Mexico. You are willingly offering the sub-service of which, I for one am very appreciative. Be as dramatic as you wish!
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USPS will is implementing a you must have insurance on your package program stating next week.
Here is the information on the new pricing:

WASHINGTON−Changes are coming to your mail in July, as new U.S. Postal Service pricing takes effect early in the month.
Costs will go up by 5 cents to mail a first-class, international letter and by 3 cents on multiple items, as USPS tries to offset inflation and bring in "much needed revenue," according to the agency.
This month will mark the fourth price increase in two years on Forever Stamps, which have increased from 55 cents in 2021 to 66 cents on July 9.
Other costs could also go down with the new USPS Ground Advantage plan.
All the changes will begin Sunday, July 9. Here's what you need to know:
USPS costs going up on stamps, letters, postcards
• Forever Stamps will increase from 63 cents to 66 cents
• A 1-ounce letter will increase from 63 cents to 66 cents
• A 1-ounce metered letter will increase from 60 cents to 63 cents
• Domestic postcards will increase from 48 cents to 51 cents
• A 1-ounce letter mailed to another country will increase from $1.45 to $1.50
• Postcards mailed to another country will increase from $1.45 to $1.50
USPS costs going down with Ground Advantage program
The Postal Service's new Ground Advantage plan starts Sunday, July 9 and will replace previous plans, such as Ground Returns, Retail Ground, First-Class Package, Parcel Select Ground and First Class Package Return. Here's what the changes mean for you:
• Free package pickup service at homes or offices
• Tracking is included
• $100 insurance included, with $5,000 more available to purchase
• Packages ship in 2 to 5 business days
• More than 3% cheaper for retail customers and about 1% cheaper on commercial prices


Our prices to mail are still less expensive than most other countries. My wife and I were in Vienna last week. Österreiche Post (Austrian postal service) charged €7.90 for 4 postcard stamps. At the current wholesale conversion rate of €1 = $1.09 it cost $2.15 to mail a postcard.
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Here is the information on the new pricing:

WASHINGTON−Changes are coming to your mail in July, as new U.S. Postal Service pricing takes effect early in the month.
Costs will go up by 5 cents to mail a first-class, international letter and by 3 cents on multiple items, as USPS tries to offset inflation and bring in "much needed revenue," according to the agency.
This month will mark the fourth price increase in two years on Forever Stamps, which have increased from 55 cents in 2021 to 66 cents on July 9.
Other costs could also go down with the new USPS Ground Advantage plan.
All the changes will begin Sunday, July 9. Here's what you need to know:
USPS costs going up on stamps, letters, postcards
• Forever Stamps will increase from 63 cents to 66 cents
• A 1-ounce letter will increase from 63 cents to 66 cents
• A 1-ounce metered letter will increase from 60 cents to 63 cents
• Domestic postcards will increase from 48 cents to 51 cents
• A 1-ounce letter mailed to another country will increase from $1.45 to $1.50
• Postcards mailed to another country will increase from $1.45 to $1.50
USPS costs going down with Ground Advantage program
The Postal Service's new Ground Advantage plan starts Sunday, July 9 and will replace previous plans, such as Ground Returns, Retail Ground, First-Class Package, Parcel Select Ground and First Class Package Return. Here's what the changes mean for you:
• Free package pickup service at homes or offices
• Tracking is included
• $100 insurance included, with $5,000 more available to purchase
• Packages ship in 2 to 5 business days
• More than 3% cheaper for retail customers and about 1% cheaper on commercial prices


Our prices to mail are still less expensive than most other countries. My wife and I were in Vienna last week. Österreiche Post (Austrian postal service) charged €7.90 for 4 postcard stamps. At the current wholesale conversion rate of €1 = $1.09 it cost $2.15 to mail a postcard.
Great info, thanks for posting. The one sentence missing is: "as part of our price increases you can now opt out of receiving junk mail in your mailbox".
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Great info, thanks for posting. The one sentence missing is: "as part of our price increases you can now opt out of receiving junk mail in your mailbox".
A pity they won’t give us that option. Sadly, among other things, it would kill their business model and necessitate much larger price increases.
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A pity they won’t give us that option. Sadly, among other things, it would kill their business model and necessitate much larger price increases.
USPS dirty little secret, kind flys in the face of all the current administrations "green initiatives ".
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I have the fed ex app on my phone. I redirect all packages to be picked up at my local Walgreens. They hold for five days. I pick up at my convenience and sign for it. No charge.
Problem solved. Have probably done 150 times without an issue.
Great service. Piece of mind when you are traveling.
UPS provides same service. You can redirect to the nearest UPS Store and pick up. But they have a charge. $4.95 I think.

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Great info, thanks for posting. The one sentence missing is: "as part of our price increases you can now opt out of receiving junk mail in your mailbox".
What we call junk mail they designate as 'Bulk Business Mail' and it generates a lot of income for them even at the lower rates they are afforded for this service.

I am glad I have at least 10 coils (1000 stamps) of forever stamps that I purchased for 60¢ or less from USPS, not the counterfeit ones being sold on ebay.
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I have the fed ex app on my phone. I redirect all packages to be picked up at my local Walgreens. They hold for five days. I pick up at my convenience and sign for it. No charge.
Problem solved. Have probably done 150 times without an issue.
Great service. Piece of mind when you are traveling.
UPS provides same service. You can redirect to the nearest UPS Store and pick up. But they have a charge. $4.95 I think.
$8.95. I had to do that once on a UPS package.
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$8.95. I had to do that once on a UPS package.
And a few times UPS disregarded my instructions. Has been seamless with Fed Ex.
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..Are all the grading companies aware of the counterfeit stamps ? They know about baseball cards . Well , some of them do . Well , sometimes some of them do.

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I have a box at a UPS Store which receives USPS, UPS, FedEx, DHL, any type of shipper and they sign for it from 8am-8pm and are open 7 days a week for me to pick up. It's held secure until I get it so no porch pirates. Not cheap at about $180/year but I can call them and they'll tell me if I have anything which I can't do with the post office. Agree on porch pirates. They should be shot. Good luck whatever you decide. Doing these group subs is a HUGE commitment and everyone should be thankful for that.

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Bobby, the way you weave your “Who wants to join my sub?” threads with your constant complaints about TPGs is truly masterful.
The new "no more USPS thing - fedex only" was dished out to me AFTER they accepted my order.......come on now........

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What we call junk mail they designate as 'Bulk Business Mail' and it generates a lot of income for them even at the lower rates they are afforded for this service.

I am glad I have at least 10 coils (1000 stamps) of forever stamps that I purchased for 60¢ or less from USPS, not the counterfeit ones being sold on ebay.
I bought 4 stamps 3+ years ago and have 3 left
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I bought 4 stamps 3+ years ago and have 3 left
LOL - Im bitchin about having to go to Post Office to buy 1 stamp cuz the 4 stamps that have lasted me over 2 years now - are all gone
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