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View Poll Results: D you collect 33 goudey card ?
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:37 PM
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I may be fighting a losing battle keeping this Goudey thread alive.

Nevertheless, here is one of my favorites, Hall of Famer "Sunny Jim" Bottomley.

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Ron, you goudey are amazing. You own the complete set in high grade like that?
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No, still three away from completion, and about eighty upgrades wanted. Hope to see you score your Lajoie one day. I still need one too.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:33 PM
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I never get tired of seeing these Goudeys. Keep them coming.
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Old 02-23-2013, 05:16 PM
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Jim, here is a low population first series common. The orange background is a favorite of mine.

Tommy Thevenow had only two career home runs, both inside the park and both in his signature season for the 1926 St. Louis Cardinals. He was credited with one more inside the park home run in the 1926 World Series when the official scorer refused to call Babe Ruth's misplay an error.

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I love the '33 set, but can't afford to start collecting it - I would want the ones that look like they were printed on higher-quality cardboard, as opposed to the brown ones that look like they are about to crumble.

I Only have two - Gehrig and yellow Ruth.
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Ya, my budget is limited so I am sticking to presentable cards in the good range. I still love them. My Dad used to tell me stories about him buying these as a little kid. Too bad his Mom threw them away like so many other stories. I think that is where my love of these cards started.
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Jim, I have discovered two nice size Goudey collections here in Kansas City. Both in fair to very good condition, but untouched since the 1930's. Most of the Big League Chewing Gum banners had been cut off. I have been told kids back then didn't want the advertisement on their cards.

By the way, many of the cards were off centered. When I see someone comment that a Goudey looks trimmed based solely on uneven borders, I know they have never been involved in a Goudey find.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:05 PM
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Interesting, I had never heard that. I have noticed quite a few trimmed cards on eBay where the big league chew banner has been cut off. I have to keep reminding myself that these cards were just cardboard back then and not big money like now.

On a separate note, do you know of any place to look up the history of 33 Lajoie sales? I know you are searching for one and I am curious if I'll ever be able to afford my dream card.

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Cardtarget is pretty handy.. Especially for sets like '33 Goudey that has lots of sales. There's a few past Lajoie sales in here..

http://www.cardtarget.com/cgi-bin/gm...tID=1862995999
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Great info. Thanks!
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In 2009, I started collecting again after a long hiatus. Bought an upper deck goudey box and eventually put together the base + sp set. While searching ebay for modern goudeys. I ran across some real ones and thought I should grab one just for fun. 1933 Goudey Travis Jackson was the first pre-war card I bought and launched me into pre-war collecting. I collected all the hofers (minus Lajoie and the 2nd Gehrig) in 09, 10, and 11. Then last summer I decided to go for the rest of the set.

As usual I'm in the raw "fair/good/vg" neighborhood

I'm now 15 shy for the set (counting Lajoie and a 2nd Gehrig) and my list of hofers to upgrade is at 16.


here's a photo with the Manush upgrade I just received from Jason in front of my hall of fame cheese box.

I gotta say, between the wood boxes and the organization and the cards shown............this is one awesome post
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I completed my 1933 Goudey set (-#106) many years ago. Got a large group from a guy who auctioned his "find" at the early 1970's Labor Day show in S. California near Disneyland. I only needed the Lajoie a few years later when I came across one at a local flea market. The guy had a few '33s, some R337s, a US caramel and a nice Lajoie. He knew it had value and wanted around $1500 for it, which was a little below the going rate at the time. I couldn't pull the trigger so that's my why the hell didn't I buy it story.
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Wow...some impressive cards here. I'm not a set collector but I really like this set and someday want to add a some HOF's like Foxx, Dean, Grove etc. I only have two, #144 Ruth and #92 Gehrig, as of now but hopefully that will change in time. Thanks for sharing.
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I gotta say, between the wood boxes and the organization and the cards shown............this is one awesome post
Thanks very much Lance!
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Cardtarget is pretty handy.. Especially for sets like '33 Goudey that has lots of sales. There's a few past Lajoie sales in here..

http://www.cardtarget.com/cgi-bin/gm...tID=1862995999
I've been collecting the set for about a year. Still need close to ~100 cards. I had no idea there was a Jack Russell "proof" until I looked at the link.
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I completed my 1933 Goudey set (-#106) many years ago. Got a large group from a guy who auctioned his "find" at the early 1970's Labor Day show in S. California near Disneyland. I only needed the Lajoie a few years later when I came across one at a local flea market. The guy had a few '33s, some R337s, a US caramel and a nice Lajoie. He knew it had value and wanted around $1500 for it, which was a little below the going rate at the time. I couldn't pull the trigger so that's my why the hell didn't I buy it story.


Nice story! I always enjoy read old story from the 60 70 80 s ...

1500 for lajoie coool i ll take it lol
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He was the pitcher for Babe Ruth's Called Shot in the 1932 World Series. Two days before his death he said, "I gave my life to baseball, and I'll only be remembered for something that never happened".



I love 1930's baseball.
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I voted no but do have some Goudeys I like...(those are some beautiful cards Ronald)
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Leon da man!
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I? love the '33's and collect them in any grade...I actually like the look and feel ( I crack them if they're graded) of the well-worn cards!
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Leon,
I'd love to see a close-up scan of those copyright cards.
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I'd love to see a close-up scan of those copyright cards.
I don't want to post it here because it's huge but if you click on this link, then click on the scan to enlarge it, it's about as big as you probably want...


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I'm still using ye old 9 pocket page protectors for my set.

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Now THAT'S the way to show off a '33 Goudey card collection! Free and easy, no enclosed plastic tombs!
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Thanks Gary! I even took scans of my encapsulated ones and printed them to fill those sopts
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Sean ,
How many signed Goudeys do you have?

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Hi tony
I have 180 different signed. With doubles I have over 300. Been collecting them since 1988
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Pretty impressive and they look great in the album. How often are you able to add to your collection?
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the last few years have been really slow. There has been a real build up of vintage signed card collectors that started showing up about 6 years ago which is good for the value of what I have but bad for adding more. I did get about 8 last year but my goal of reaching 200 different is quickly fading. I managed to secure a complete Cubs team set signed and am a Al Simmons away from having a White sox set signed. Unbelievably, with 180 different I only not quite managed to complete two autographed team sets.

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I dont have much else great in my collection so I like whoring out these pics lol. Here's my Cubs signed team set.

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Well that's a pretty big GREAT!

Of the one's you don't have, how many do you know exist?
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They all exist minus earl clarke whom probably doesnt. He died in 37 and was a minor leaguer mostly.I have johnny welch whom was the third to die in the set.
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Fantastic autographed Goudey cards! I especially like the ones signed before World War II.

You deserve a quadruple smiley for that collection.
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Thanks ronald! I would guess I have about fifty signed before ww2. I got all the players who were alive post 1988 through the mail. In fact I had so many 30s cards signed that if you have a signed thirties card of someone who died post 88 theres a good chance I was the one that got them. At one time I had twenty signed willis hudlin 33s
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Sean, great stash of autos!!! You and Ron have a lot to be proud of with your collections, that's for sure!

Congrats to both of you!
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They are both common, but I love Gehringer and Terry autographs if you have them to show here.

Which are your favorites?

Do you happen to know a simple way to find the date of death for the players sorted in order(too lazy to look them all up).
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Thanks

Here is a list in order for ya:

1. 1938 E. Clark #57
2. 1939 Heathcote #115
3. 1940 Welch #93
4. 1941 Gehrig #160
5. 1941 Gehrig #92
6. 1942 10/3 Hargrave #172
7. 1942 12/5 Picinich # 118
8. 1943 Malone #55
9. 1944 03/03 Howley #175
10. 1944 11/1 Brandt #50
11. 1946 08/06 Lazzeri #31
12. 1946 Quinn #78
13. 1947 06/01 J. Wilson #37
14. 1947 12/29 Blaeholder #16
15. 1948 01/30 Pennock #138
16. 1948 08/14 P. Collins #21
17. 1948 08/16 Ruth #144
18. 1948 08/16 Ruth #149
19. 1948 08/16 Ruth #181
20. 1948 08/16 Ruth #53
21. 1948 11/23 H. Wilson #211
22. 1949 Cissell #26
23. 1950 02/11 Cuyler #23
24. 1950 05/02 Morrissey #97
25. 1950 05/19 Holm #173
26. 1951 03/02 Comorosky #77
27. 1951 03/25 E. Collins #42
28. 1952 Vaughn #229
29. 1953 04/03 Benton #45
30. 1953 05/03 F. Scott #70
31. 1954 01/05 Maranville #117
32. 1954 03/16 George Grantham #66
33. 1954 10/22 Whitehill #124
34. 1956 Simmons #35
35. 1957 07/03 Luque #209
36. 1957 07/28 Thevenow #36
37. 1958 03/28 Klein #128
38. 1958 08/30 Demaree #224
39. 1958 11/3 Sand #85
40. 1958 11/21 Ott #127
41. 1958 11/21 Ott #207
42. 1958 12/08 Friberg #105
43. 1958 12/08 Speaker #89
44. 1958 12/30 Spencer #84
45. 1959 02/07 Lajoie #106
46. 1959 12/11 Bottomley #44
47. 1961 02/16 Vance #2
48. 1961 04/08 F. Brickell #38
49. 1962 02/04 Bishop #61
50. 1962 06/02 Cochrane #76
51. 1962 11/29 Kress #33
52. 1962 12/04 Cantwell #139
53. 1962 12/27 Flowers #151
54. 1963 01/05 Hornsby #119
55. 1963 01/05 Hornsby #188
56. 1963 02/15 Hadley #140
57. 1963 02/28 Rixey #74
58. 1963 03/11 Judge #155
59. 1963 11/13 Ruel #18
60. 1964 08/06 C. Ogden #174
61. 1964 12/31Rollings #88
62. 1965 02/08 Kremer #54
63. 1965 03/05 P. Martin #62
64. 1965 08/29 P. Waner # 25
65. 1966 02/18 McManus #48
66. 1966 05/07 B. Miller #59
67. 1966 06/14 Walker #94
68. 1966 07/06 S. Jones #81
69. 1966 10/02 W. Brown #192
70. 1966 12/20 Farrell #148
71. 1967 04/07 Hogan #30
72. 1967 07/21 Foxx #154
73. 1967 07/21 Foxx #29
74. 1967 07/29 /Kolp #150
75. 1967 09/04 Manion #80
76. 1968 03/18 Meine #205
77. 1968 04/19 Bridges #199
78. 1968 09/04 Orsatti #201
79. 1968 09/26 Clancy #32
80. 1968 11/20 L. Thompson #13
81. 1968 12/22 Bengough #1
82. 1969 01/24 Zachary #91
83. 1969 07/23 Mahaffey # 196
84. 1969 07/30 Rhem #136
85. 1969 08/09 Myatt #10
86. 1969 10/27 Jamieson #171
87. 1969 12/07 O’Doul #232
88. 1969 12/07 O’Doul #58
89. 1970 01/07 J. Elliot #132
90. 1970 11/05 Root #226
91. 1971 02/08 Burke #71
92. 1971 05/12 Manush #107
93. 1971 05/12 Manush #187
94. 1971 05/12 Manush #47
95. 1971 05/15 Goslin #110
96. 1971 05/15 Goslin #168
97. 1971 10/23 Petty #90
98. 1972 ¾ W. Clarke #!7
99. 1972 03/16 Traynor #22
100. 1972 03/24 Coffman #101
101. 1972 04/03 Crowder #122
102. 1972 04/03 Crowder #95
103. 1972 05/04 Sorrell #!5
104. 1972 05/29 Berg #158
105. 1972 07/21 McCurdy #170
106. 1972 07/21 Spohrer #161
107. 1972 08/26 Macfayden #156
108. 1972 09/06 Berry #184
109. 1972 12/20 Hartnett #202
110. 1973 01/09 Lary #193
111. 1973 03/12 Frisch #49
112. 1973 07/12 Urbanski #212
113. 1973 07/17 Swanson #195
114. 1973 09/10 R. Johnson #8
115. 1973 09/18 Dave Harris # 9
116. 1973 11/15 Todt #86
117. 1974 01/18 Jablonowski #83
118. 1974 07/09 Mangum #162
119. 1974 07/17 Dean #223
120. 1974 07/30 Haas #219
121. 1974 09/19 Taylor #152
122. 1974 09/26 W. Stewart #121
123. 1974 09/26 W. Stewart #146
124. 1974 10/13 S. Rice #134
125. 1974 10/31 Myer #153
126. 1975 04/18 J. Burns #198
127. 1975 05/22 Grove #220
128. 1975 06/08 Carroll #72
129. 1976 02/10 E. Moore #180
130. 1976 06/15 Dykes #6
131. 1976 06/23 Warneke #203
132. 1976 06/30 Marberry #104
133. 1976 07/21 Combs #103
134. 1976 09/25 Faber #79
135. 1976 12/09 W. Ferrell #218
136. 1977 01/29 H. Ford #24
137. 1977 11/09 J. Ogden #176
138. 1978 01/27 Connally #27
139. 1978 05/29 Reynolds # 120
140. 1978 06/28 J. Schulte #186
141. 1978 08/05 Haines #73
142. 1978 10/27 Walberg #145
143. 1978 10/27 Walberg #183
144. 1979 03/02 Alexander #221
145. 1979 11/18 Fitzsimmons #130
146. 1979 11/18 Fitzsimmons #235
147. 1980 01/10 Critz #238
148. 1980 01/10 Critz #3
149. 1980 04/09 E. Morgan #116
150. 1981 02/22 High #182
151. 1981 05/11 Byrd #157
152. 1981 07/08 Hallahan #200
153. 1981 08/31 Parmalee #239
154. 1981 10/04 Lindstrom #133
155. 1981 12/01 Piet #228
156. 1981 12/10 Leach #179
157. 1982 07/22 L. Waner #164
158. 1982 08/20 H. Johnson #14
159. 1983 ¾ G. Davis #236
160. 1983 05/20 F. Schulte #112
161. 1983 05/20 F. Schulte #190
162. 1983 08/16 Averill #194
163. 1983 11/15 Grimm #51
164. 1984 02/26 Kuhel #108
165. 1984 04/06 G. Wright #143
166. 1984 05/13 W. French #177
167. 1984 08/14 V. Davis #210
168. 1984 08/25 Hoyt #60
169. 1984 09/07 Cronin #109
170. 1984 09/07 Cronin #189
171. 1984 09/07 Cronin #63
172. 1984 10/26 Mancuso #237
173. 1984 10/26 Mancuso #41
174. 1985 02/26 Uhle #100
175. 1985 07/02 G. Bush #67
176. 1985 10/15 Bluege #113
177. 1985 10/15 Bluege #159
178. 1985 11/15 Stephenson #204
179. 1985 11/23 S. West #166
180. 1985 12/06 Grimes #64
181. 1986 02/17 Ruffing #56
182. 1986 03/13 J. Warner #178
183. 1986 05/05 Richards #142
184. 1986 05/14 O’ Rourke #87
185. 1986 05/28 Douthit #40
186. 1986 07/09 Lucas #137
187. 1986 07/25 Lyons #7
188. 1986 10/10 Van Atta #215
189. 1986 10/19 Pipgras #12
190. 1987 05/14 L. Sewell #114
191. 1987 05/14 L. Sewell #163
192. 1987 07/19 B. Smith #185
193. 1987 07/27 T. Jackson #102
194. 1987 11/14 Lisenbee #68
195. 1987 11/27 Herman #5
196. 1988 02/20 O’Farrell #34
197. 1988 04/27 A. Thomas #169
198. 1988 10/29 Cohen #52
199. 1988 11/21 Hubbell #230
200. 1988 11/21 Hubbell #234
201. 1988 11/30 Berger #98
202. 1988 12/21 Kamm #75
203. 1989 01/09 Terry #125
204. 1989 01/09 Terry #20
205. 1989 02/17 Gomez #216
206. 1989 02/24 E. Adams #213
207. 1989 08/17 Frankhouse #131
208. 1989 11/26 Fonseca #43
209. 1990 03/06 J. Sewell #165
210. 1990 10/02 Schuble #4
211. 1990 11/03 J. Russell #123
212. 1990 11/03 J. Russell #167
213. 1991 10/07 Durocher #147
214. 1991 07/15 Vergez #233
215. 1992 04/02 D. Williams #82
216. 1992 06/12 R. Moore #69
217. 1992 09/05 Billy Herman #227
218. 1993 01/21 Gehringer #222
219. 1993 04/21 Schumacher #129
220. 1993 04/21 Schumacher #240
221. 1993 04/22 Koenig #39
222. 1993 07/07 Chapman #191
223. 1993 09/15 E. Allen #46
224. 1993 10/19 Kerr #214
225. 1993 11/12 Dickey #19
226. 1994 06/14 Weaver #111
227. 1994 08/01 James #208
228. 1995 07/27 R. Ferrell #197
229. 1995 08/04 Bartell #28
230. 1995 09/21 Cuccinello #99
231. 1996 04/26 Gaston #65
232. 1997 03/03 Jurges #225
233. 1997 06/27 Benge #141
234. 1997 09/26 English #135
235. 2001 04/01 J. Moore #126
236. 2001 04/01 J. Moore #231
237. 2002 02/11 Crosetti #217
238. 2002 08/05 Hudlin #96
239. 2003 08/09 Rogell #11
240. 2004 01/15 Suhr #206

I attached some pics. For some reason I dont have one of the terry's scanned but the other and the gehringer are in there. I always liked the Benton card and hes tough as he died in 1950. Also Earl Whitehill as he was the first deceased one I ever bought ?(off Gar Miller in 1989 for $50 which was crazy money then!).

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Also, if I can ever find the Luke Sewell standing card signed I will have every player that died back to Dizzy Dean or 1974. Thats the next goal I hope to accomplish

Just looking at tat list I think Fred Frankhouse was the first player i got through the mail to pass away so i probably really got started in early 1989

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Thanks for the list! Great, great collection.
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yeah I dont have a scan of his earlier throwing card but i do have it. They are somewhat common so Ill keep an eye out for ya if I see one come up
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Sean, great stash of autos!!! You and Ron have a lot to be proud of with your collections, that's for sure!

Congrats to both of you!
+ 10,000!!! You both have fantastic collections! Thanks for sharing some pictures of your collection.
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They are both common, but I love Gehringer and Terry autographs
Gehringer's signature is so classic and always perfectly consistent. I have his and the rest of the '35 Tigers on team signed ball (incl. Goslin, Greenberg, Cochrane), but wish I had some of those on Goudeys as well.
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Sean- Great cards and that list is a keeper that I will "save" for sure. I probably have about 40+ auto. 1933s. I do have the Al Simmons, but he is one of my favorite players, would like to get a Foxx someday. I know I have a L. Sewell port, which I assume you don't need, can look for the other one. Would be quite a challenge to put together the Yankee team set. Fun stuff
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Sean,

I gotta say that of all the collections I have seen on this site, your signed Goudey collection is probably my favorite!

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In 2009, I started collecting again after a long hiatus. Bought an upper deck goudey box and eventually put together the base + sp set. While searching ebay for modern goudeys. I ran across some real ones and thought I should grab one just for fun. 1933 Goudey Travis Jackson was the first pre-war card I bought and launched me into pre-war collecting. I collected all the hofers (minus Lajoie and the 2nd Gehrig) in 09, 10, and 11. Then last summer I decided to go for the rest of the set.

As usual I'm in the raw "fair/good/vg" neighborhood

I'm now 15 shy for the set (counting Lajoie and a 2nd Gehrig) and my list of hofers to upgrade is at 16.


here's a photo with the Manush upgrade I just received from Jason in front of my hall of fame cheese box.
Love the wooden drawers Tony! In addition to collecting cardboard, I dabble in woodworking and I'm actually in the design phase of designing and building a desk that I'm going to incorporate small apothecary style drawers into like you have, to store cards in. I’m pretty excited about project and your pictures have provided a little extra motivation.
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Love the wooden drawers Tony! In addition to collecting cardboard, I dabble in woodworking and I'm actually in the design phase of designing and building a desk that I'm going to incorporate small apothecary style drawers into like you have, to store cards in. I’m pretty excited about project and your pictures have provided a little extra motivation.
Thanks Mark,
I really love the shallow drawers for displaying the cards. I also love the glass fronts on most of the drawers in my cabinet http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...55#post1083855
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Thanks guys!
Rich you know I'm going to be bugging you now for a trade
Thanks tony! That cabinet is very classy btw. I have most of my cards in Tupperware containers lol
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Love the signed Goudeys. Absolutely amazing! I am always on the lookout for a signed Hubbell or Goslin as these are my two favorite cards in the set. I imagine there are a few Hubbells out there but I haven't seen a Goslin.

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Thanks! I have both goslins and both hubbels. I attached a pic of o ne of the goslins. The other that I have is trimmed but better then nothing I guess.
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