PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

As most you know, this is the toughest Piedmont back and tougher to find than many
of the T206 backs such as CYCLE, EPDG, Brn. HINDU, OLD MILL, TOLSTOI, etc.

I will start with my 3 cards.....

Let's see how many we can display.....show us your PIEDMONT 460/42 cards ?

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Posted By: MVSNYC

i have 2...

PSA 3 cy seymour, portrait
PSA 2 harry mcintyre, bk & chi

edited to say: i am having a senior moment at age 32, i actually think i traded the PSA 2 mcintyre to someone else...BUT, i did own it up until recently.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Great going HAL

Scot Reader is certainly correct regarding this card being a "Super Print".

Now, if I can only find a Red Cobb with a SOVEREIGN 460 back ?

I think it might be a tad tougher than this "baby" you have on display.

Thanks Hal for sharing it with us.


T-Rex TED

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Posted By: Scot Reader

Ted,

Currently have:

Chase (Loving Cup)
Lajoie (With Bat)
Leifield (Batting)
Manning (Pitching)
Murphy (With Bat)
Steinfeldt (With Bat)

All PSA 5 except Leifield and Chase, which are PSA 4.

Had and sold:

Leach (Bending)
Pelty (Vertical)

Scot

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Posted By: Drew

Ted
I have a Joss pitching with the piedmont 460 fac 42. I didn't even know it was a fac 42 when I bought it many years ago.

Drew

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Posted By: Bill

I found this one by accident. I didn't even know I had one.

BB

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

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Posted By: MVSNYC

i have found that a lot of P-42's have lighter blue printing on the back, versus a dark bold strike...interesting.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

DREW and BILL

This is commonplace, that many do not realize that their T206 collections have a few of these
rare PIEDMONT 460/42 cards. When I broke up my 2nd set (520 cards) a year ago to start to
collect only Piedmonts, I found two of these backs that I did not even realize I had.

Just think about how many of these rare cards are out there in T206 sets that collectors are
unaware of.

TED Z

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Posted By: NetJr

Piedmont 350-460- Factory 42 (Pelty, Vertical Photo, SGC 10)

I notice someone mentioned they had one and sold it above, perhaps its the one that is in our set at cardtarget

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Posted By: Martin Neal

I have the following:

Downey batting
Griffith batting
Lajoie batting
Sweeney catching
White (chi) follow through
Wiltse throwing

most are good to very good with the Lajoie in a psa 4 holder

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Posted By: Scot Reader

Michael,
You are right that a lot of the Piedmont 42s have light blue print. Another characteristic is that a disproportionate number of the ones that have dark blue print are off center to the right.
Scot

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Ted,
Here is the list of my 42's:

BAKERTHROW
COBBBAT OFF
COBBBAT OFF
CRAWFORDBAT
KLEINOWBOSTON
KONETCHYGL LOW
LATHAMPOR
LATHAMNY NAT
MANNINGPITCH
MATHEWSONDARK
MATHEWSONDCAP
MCINTYREBR&CH
OVERALLTHROW
PELTYVERT
SWEENEYTHROW
SEYMOURTHROW
SMITHCHI&BOS
SNODGRASSCATCH
WAGNERRIGHT
WHITECHI

I'm missing about 7-8, but can't locate my ungraded list, so I'll try to add them later.


Scot:
Here is the scan of the light versus dark

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Posted By: MVSNYC

wow brian, between your BL collection & P-42's...that alone, is very imprsseive, what does your overall T206 collection look like?

regards,
Michael

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Michael,
I have over 2100 T206's at the moment, and have been collecting rare backs for over 20 years. I'm in the process of building a T206 set with as many rare backs as possible. A super set is my goal, and it will be a life long pursuit. Be well Brian


You can see some of my set on the PSA Registry under Carolinabrights.

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

shown in a prior thread on the subject:

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Posted By: Judson Hamlin

I've got Stahl and Seymour (throw).

Does anyone have data on T205's w/Piedmont 42s?

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Posted By: Judson Hamlin

Good luck on the tough back set. I stopped buying Piedmonts (except for a 42) in about 1993. Just because I enjoy making my collecting life difficult. Only 15 to go (plus the Big 4).

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Judson,
I actually broke up my T206 set several yaers ago to start this crazy quest. I had every card but Wagner, and of course the Doyle, which when I started the set hadn't been found. I have owned 2 Magie's and 1 Plank(that I regret selling)otherwise the set is not to hard to collect. Good luck on your collecting goals. Be well Brian


PS If your bidding on rare backs on EBAY, you may want to LMK so we don't kill each other on cost.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

BRIAN and JUDD

The 3 of us seem to think in similar ways. I broke up my set a year ago this month to....
"enjoy making my collecting life difficult". But, I chose to put together a T206 set as a
function of the three Series (150-350-460) and comprised of only Piedmont cards. It's
been a lot of fun to "complete" this set of 518 cards; but, certainly not as tough as the
challenge you guys have in your pursuits.

TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

To date, from several surveys and the posts on this Thread, we have a
total of 52 different cards with P460/42 backs.

Included in this 52 are these 16 HOFers and Stars........

Baker
Bender (trees)
Bender (no trees)
Chance (yellow)
Chase (dark cap)
Chase (trophy)
Cobb (red)
Cobb (bat off)
Crawford (bat)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (dancing)
Joss (pitch)
Lajoie (bat)
Matthewson (dark cap)
CYoung (glove)


T-Rex TED

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Posted By: Jim Rivera

Ted,

I have a few on the list of 52 but add M. Brown (chicago) to your list of 16. I'll send you a scan later

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Posted By: MVSNYC

Hi Brian-

email sent, would love to chat.

Best-
MS

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Thanks JIM....will do.

TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

UPDATED.....Piedmont 460/42 HOFers and Stars list

Baker
Bender (trees)
Bender (no trees)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Chance (yellow)
Chase (dark cap)
Chase (trophy)
Cobb (red)
Cobb (bat off)
Crawford (bat)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (dancing)
Joss (pitch)
Lajoie (bat)
Mathewson (dark cap)
CYoung (glove)

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Posted By: Joey Settle

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Thanks, JOEY

Your Chance card is the 4th one of the six "Super Prints" in the T206 set, that we
have accounted for with the Piedmont 460/42 back.

We still need Chase (blue) and Evers (bat-Chicago) to complete these "Super Six".

TED Z

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Ted,
Here is my list of KNOWN 42'S:

Red Ames (hands above head)
Home Run Baker (R) (HOF)
Chief Bender No Trees (HOF)
Bill Bradley (with bat)
Mordecai Brown Chicago (HOF)
Frank Chance Yellow Portrait (HOF)
Hal Chase Black Cap
Ty Cobb Red Portrait (HOF)
Ty Cobb Bat off Shoulder (HOF)
Wid Conroy (with bat)
Sam Crawford With Bat
Patsy Dougherty (arm in air)
Tom Downey (batting)
Kid Elberfeld (Wash., fielding)
Johnny Evers Chicago (yellow sky) (HOF)
Clark Griffith Batting (HOF)
Hughie Jennings Two Hands (HOF)
Walter Johnson Glove at Chest (R) (HOF)
Tim Jordan (Brooklyn, batting)
Addie Joss Hands at Chest (HOF)
Red Kleinow Boston
Ed Konetchy (glove near ground)
Nap Lajoie With Bat (HOF)
Arlie Latham
Tommy Leach (bending over)
Lefty Leifield (batting)
Rube Manning (pitching)
Christy Mathewson Dark Cap (HOF)
Harry McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
George Mullin (with bat)
Danny Murphy (batting)
Charley O'Leary (hands on knees)
Orval Overall (hand face level)
Barney Pelty (vertical photo)
Ed Reulbach (no glove showing)
Germany Schaefer (Washington)
Cy Seymour (throwing)
Fred Snodgrass (catching)
Jake Stahl (glove shows)
Harry Steinfeldt (with bat)
Jeff Sweeney (New York)
Heinie Wagner (bat on right shoulder)
Doc White (Chicago, pitching)
Ed Willetts (Willett)
Vic Willis Batting
Vic Willis Throwing
Hooks Wiltse (pitching)
Cy Young With Glove (HOF)
Frank Smith (Chicago & Boston)

I'm sur I've left out a few as I am late on updating the list, but it should be 95% right. Now that's fill in the wholes. Be well Brian

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Posted By: Brian E.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Thanks for your pretty comprehensive list on these Piedmont 460/42 cards.

I will add Chase (blue bkgd.) to your list.....all the other 5 Super Prints are included
in your list; therefore, there is a high probability that Chase will show up, too.

T-Rex TED

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Posted By: Ray Piskadlo

Just received today. Didn't know what back the card had until I opened the envelope. This is the closest I will ever come to a "find".

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Find one, and you'll always find another.....

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Posted By: Ray Piskadlo

Brian, thanks for showing me what the rest of my card looks like!

That's a beauty of a Kleinow too... mine has a Sweet Cap Factory 42 back and resides in an SGC10 holder.