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Old 09-13-2013, 04:38 AM
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Here are the latest fakes listed by this seller on e-bay. Seems to be more every month or so, don't know how this seller has not been kicked off of e-bay yet.........


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item51b1bbbf2c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item51b1bbdeed

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item51b1bbf95c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item51b1822f78
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Hi Phil,
I'm not a photo guy. Would you please tell me the signs that made you think these are fakes? It may help me avoid purchasing fakes in the future.

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Old 09-13-2013, 06:18 AM
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Hey, Rick:

The clarity of these photos is not there to be originals. The telltale sign for most all of the fake Negro League photos though is the spider veins that you can see running through different parts of the photo.
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Well... here is another fake photo that has been up on ebay for awhile too. Unfortunately, it is slabbed by Beckett.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1919-Babe-Ru...item19d182b593

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"SINCE THIS ITEM HAS BEEN AUTHENTICATED BY BECKETT THERE WILL BE NO RETURNS ON THIS ONE"


Surprise...surprise....
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Thanks for the heads up guys!!
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The Ruth flip says "Underwood News Serv." But not on the photo, that I can find.
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Hey, Rick:

The clarity of these photos is not there to be originals. The telltale sign for most all of the fake Negro League photos though is the spider veins that you can see running through different parts of the photo.
interesting about the spider veins, why does that occur on the fakes?
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The Ruth flip says "Underwood News Serv." But not on the photo, that I can find.
The Ruth is a forgery. It was stabbed by Beckett that way probably because they were told a story or saw it in some archives labelled as such. They should not be suthenticating photos. The date stamps are fake. My guess is, the seller knows it will not pass Psa DNA as a type 1. thus, hides behind the Beckett slab and doesn't guarantee what he/she is selling. I have seen this listed by multiple eBay Ids trying to dump it. It is a fake/forgery/junk.
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The Ruth flip says "Underwood News Serv." But not on the photo, that I can find.
Lower left corner

copyright by
underwood & underwood N.Y.
? service co N.Y. distributors.


Just the standard thing they added while printing the originals and it will be part of any uncropped fake too.

To me the big tip off is the sepia tone. I don't think they were supplied to the press that way. And the distributors usually had a more readable "property of " or "copyright by" on the back.

It wouldn't be a bad photo to frame at say $10.

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copyright by
underwood & underwood N.Y.
? service co N.Y. distributors.


Just the standard thing they added while printing the originals and it will be part of any uncropped fake too.

To me the big tip off is the sepia tone. I don't think they were supplied to the press that way. And the distributors usually had a more readable "property of " or "copyright by" on the back.

It wouldn't be a bad photo to frame at say $10.

Steve B
Good catch... The clarity of this is so horrendous, you can barely make it out.
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