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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Paul
There was recently a group of very high condition Fan Craze cards on ebay, including PSA9's. These cards seem to turn up in high condition fairly often (when they turn up at all) because of their naturally rounded corners. I've been waiting for lower grader ones, hoping they would be cheaper. |
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Posted By: B. Hodes
Yes the lower grade ones will sell for much less. |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: HalleyGator
I bought 5 of the Fan Craze HOF cards last night, including the Bresnahan ROOKIE Card (come on, Brian ... the Alleghany card was never distributed and can't be counted!!). I probably overpaid, but what is new?? |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Elliot
did you decide to give "flyliner" a break? |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Julie Vognar
Apparently, the game wasn't a very popular one, so there are lot (in so far as there're any) in great shape. The HOFers sell for as much as twice what they list for, and yes, the lower grade ones are MUCH cheaper. |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Paul
Thank you all very much. I'll keep looking for the Johnson, Hanlon, and a few others, and know that I'm not wasting my time trying to find ones that are less than mint. |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Kevin Cummings
He's going to need some serious consolation when he realizes he paid almost $800 for a common of whoever that really is on that "Nichols" card! |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Andy Baran
Hal, |
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Posted By: petecld
For the life of me I WILL NEVER understand the position where a rookie card has to be readily availble in order to be considered a rookie card. Why production numbers are more important then issue dates is beyond me. The article in Beckett Vintage on this topic was off base in my opinion. |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Andy Baran
I couldn't agree more. |
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Posted By: David
I don't know exactly what are the Allegany cards, but if they were unissued proofs, I wouldn't consider them trading cards. In my judgement, a trading card has to be the final product actually or intended for commercial/public distrubution. Proofs and printing plates and orignial art are fine and often deservedly collectable items, but I wouldn't consider them trading cards. |
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Posted By: MW
<< In my judgement, a trading card has to be the final product actually or intended for commercial/public distrubution. >> |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: David
I wish to note that Halley did not give me payment for the previous statement in order to make his life easier. |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: HalleyGator
Thanks to David and MW ! |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: HalleyGator
Dear Andy: |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: HalleyGator
I had my snipe program set to bid on the Willis too... |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: leon
Hey Folks, |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: sscott (runscott)
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: scott (runscott)
The Alleghenys were a high-quality product (in my opinion) that IS worth something 100 years later because of this and the fact that they were the earliest known attempt to put many of these players on a "card". |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: scott (runscott)
but rather - are they "Rookie Cards"? I think that if you want it to be a rookie, then it is. If you don't want it to be, then it isn't - it's a matter of perspective and personal choice. I called my Alleghenys "rookies" when I owned them, but if I was creating a "rookie collection", I would cut myself a little slack and not go after the Alleghenys. |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Andy Baran
No one really knows how many Alleghany sets were produced, and if they were ever distributed or not. The only thing that we know for sure is that at least one set survived, and that they were produced in 1904, which makes them legitimate cards to me. |
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Posted By: leon
I agree with Andy how 'bout them apples? ...and yes Scott, I was meaning to say that the rookies were included in the sets not that they weren't cards.... but then too "card" is a relative term........can we just have world peace and have love for each other again ? regards all |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: David
I specialize in photographs and often dislike it when an old CDV or cabinet card is fashionably (if accurately) categorized as a 'trading card' because the price zooms up as the trading card hoard joins the bidding. Ironially, in my personal aesthetic view, the desirability of a photograph is lowered if it was used for mass/commercial distribution. The 1869 Peck & Snyder Reds is deservedly historic and rare as a trading card, but is plentiful and and often of iffy (light image) quality for a period photograph. I do note, that I have seen Andy's Peck & Snyder Reds, and it is one of the best looking ones ... This is not a criticism of card collectors, just noting that photographs and trading cards are often two different worlds. |
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Posted By: runscott
Certainly cabinets and cdvs are not baseball cards, but again, if it's your personal preference to include a cabinet photo of a player as a "rookie" in your collection, I don't see what the problem is with doing so. Also, more than one copy was produced of some (most?) cabinets and cdvs, so it could be argued that cabinets and cdvs are more legitimate "rookies" than an Allegheny. But, of course, I'm just being the devil's advocate on that one. If I collected pre-wwI HOF rookies (which I might some day), I would have considered the 1892 Bingo cabinet as my Keeler "rookie" - only because Democracy allows me to do so. |
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Posted By: leon
As an owner of a pretty nice Peck and Snyder (probably the only graded one) I think there would be other cdv type cards to pick as not so good of photo's....this one looks pretty good to me...although I know some of the real cabinets are magnificant looking....take care and say hi to your puppy dog for me.....bestest regards |
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Posted By: David
Both you and Andy own one? Man, they must be growing on trees. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
It's just a personal prejudice of mine. I had the devil of a time getting Dennis King to take back the T3 "Baker," when I found out the picture was Barry. Such cards usually sell for the price of the HOFer, even if the picture is of someone else. The Fan Craze Nichols also sells at HOF prices (I guess there are those weho think it IS Nichols, growing old). |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Julie Vognar
An Allegheny is the only Kid Gleason I own. To me, it's a card. No "proof" marks. However, they were cut by hand--look at the non-HOFers. You can tell. I should say, the less popular players of the time. |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: HalleyGator
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Andy Baran
They would just come back a PSA 1 for sure |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I don't think anyone wants any of my cards, since most of them are Indian Chiefs :-p |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: mark johnson
I may have come into possession of a like new possibly PSA 9 or or better complete set of the national league cards..I have no immediate plans to sell but was wondering if you could give me a rough idea of what a complete set like new would be worth..??thanks |
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High Condition Fan Craze cards
Posted By: Julie Vognar
but also know that Fan Craze, unlike some of the other game cards, have become quite popular--the pictures are so nice, and the brilliant backs as well. |
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