Loupe Question

[Archive]

Posted By: Tim

I recently purchased a card that I think is a lower grade than it should have recieved. One explination I was given is that it may have a surface wrinkle that is only visible through a loupe.

Do many of you use a loupe when examining your cards and if so what kind? I did a search and there are a lot of different ones.

Any feedback on this is appreciated.

[Archive]

Posted By: Neal

I use a 10x jewelers loupe. However,I have found to work even better is a giant magnified glass with light built in. Works like a charm!

Very similar to this one!

http://www.electronicsnmore.com/product_info.php/products_id/8451?osCsid=a957ea7ad3c585829053837749b0d3a3>

[Archive]

Posted By: Paul Grubor

I agree..I use an Ultra-Optix MG model #SV-3LP and its the perfect tool for examining cards. I usually wait for a sunny day and tilt the card every possible way looking for imperfections. I start with the corners and then throughly examine the edges and middle. I then check the back for hidden wrinkles and corner wear. I'm a PSA dealer and I also write down what I think the examiner will grade the card. I'm getting a tad better each year very seldom do I miss an obvious flaw such as a light surface wrinkle. Anyway, my Ultra-Optix magnifying glass works wonders but I'm not even sure if they still produce them.

Paul

[Archive]

Posted By: TFerg

Bausch and Lomb makes a 10X attached to a pen light(2 AA batteries req.)

[Archive]

Posted By: Neal

http://www.ultraoptix.com/Pages/Products%20Page.html

[Archive]

Posted By: barrysloate

A loupe should be a part of everyone's collection. It really helps you see things you would otherwise miss, especially if you have eyesight like mine (thick glasses, bifocals, the works).

[Archive]

Posted By: Rob D.

Barry,

Are you suggesting a loupe over a magnifying glass? Or is using anything that simply provides magnification enough? Are there advtantages of using a loupe instead of a magnifying glass?

[Archive]

Posted By: barrysloate

Rob- there are some high quality magnifying glasses, but they are better for enlarging a wide area. A loupe allows you to look at a smaller area more clearly and with great detail. Generally your eye is much closer to the object with a loupe.

[Archive]

Posted By: barry arnold

i'm with my fellow dinosaur (Barry S.) on this one.
loupe--gotta have it.

best,
barry

[Archive]

Posted By: Aaron Patton

...is 10x standard? Are there disadvantages to using anything over 10x?

[Archive]

Posted By: barrysloate

I don't know what the ideal enlargement is, and it might vary based on the user's eyesight (I'm guessing). I think if you make the image too large it can be difficult to see clearly. Try a couple out; there will be one that you will like over the others.

[Archive]

Posted By: Joe D.

get this one.....

and walk around shows with it on. Look sternly at the dealer when you ask if you could examine the card more closely.


http://www.ariamedical.com/seiler-led.html

[Archive]

Posted By: sonny

Dave's vintage cards has a couple to choose from

https://www.gfg.com/baseball/loupe.shtml

[Archive]

Posted By: barrysloate

Joe- I recommend that surgical loupe for splitting atoms. Gives you a good clear view of them critters.

[Archive]

Posted By: dan mckee

If you need a loupe to see an imperfection, then there is no imperfection on that card to a collector.

[Archive]

Posted By: Matt

dan - that depends on how bad your eyesight is

[Archive]

Posted By: davidcycleback

I remember when I was a kid and my dad got bifoculs, because it was easier to beat him in ping pong.

[Archive]

Posted By: dan mckee

Damn Matt you got me again! That is very well put and the more I think about it, the more you are correct!!! too funny, if I am legally blind and see nothing on an obviously creased card, then I lose. STOP Bursting my bubble!!! But you do crack me up! Dan

[Archive]

Posted By: Joann

Actually Dan, you had it right. There is no blemish on a card if it can't be seen **by a collector**. If your card looks great to you then it looks great, whether your eyesight is 20/10 or 20/200.

Whether a defect is actually there only matters if the collector decides to trade or sell. Only now, because there is a matter of objective value in the collecting world at stake, does the individual eyesight matter and the collector needs to determine the actual condition of the card - maybe even with a loupe.

So as long as you are in the role of (as the post said) a collector, your standard of "if I can't see it it isn't there" is exactly correct. Only when your role changes to seller or trader does eyesight come into play.

I'm just saying.

Joann

[Archive]

Posted By: Louis Bollman

If you are concerned with surface wrinkles it is not a loupe that tells the story. Do what the graders do. Go to any office supply store and get a cheap desk lamp with a hologen (spelling ?). View the card(s) in question in a darker room with just the desk lamp. Hold the card at different angles and if the card has a wrinkle or a faint crease it will be far more visable than with any magnification available.

Having said this, I couldn't agree more with the others who stated that if the card looks good to you it's probably good enough. Speaking for myself, I would rather have a fresh looking T206 from the "Southern Find" that has a tiny, "factory" wrinkle than a toned example with a few corner touches that still technically (in the grading word) grades a "7".

Louis Bollman