Crawford Old Mill t-206

[eastonfalcon19]

This card looks like a fake to me..Let me know what you guys think. Thank you.

[ullmandds]

bad fake

[atx840]

I wonder if the back ad printing plate/process for these fakes could be used to "multi strike" legit cards and get slabbed.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by atx840

I wonder if the back ad printing plate/process for these fakes could be used to "multi strike" legit cards and get slabbed.

I believe the size of the back is different.

Running one card through a press would be possible. Just affix the card to one of the blank sheets in the right spot. There's always a chance it would get mangled, but the payoff might be worth it.
Matching the color or the intensity of the black would be the hard part.

Steve B

[Leon]

So maybe that his how this was done?

[veleno45]

What are you looking at to make the fake call? I do not have the experience that most here do so please elaborate on what you are seeing.

[ullmandds]

I would think that it would be a lot easier to falsify double triple strike backs... As the alignment does not have to be perfect

[ullmandds]

Type font/color is awful...thats all the evidence i need

[Runscott]

For an aged T206 reprint, the first thing I would normally notice with a quick glance would be gloss or lack of border on the front, but for this one it's the dark lettering and bad font - doesn't match the card. There are so many ways to create a realistic-looking forgery from a hi-def image, that are easier than trying to age and manipulate a reprint. I don't get why they do it this way.

I plan to create some tobacco fantasy card to bring to the National as advertising, so you'll see what I mean.

[hshrimps]

Isn't that a blue Old Mill back?

[sb1]

The card is a reprint rebacked with a real Old Mill back.

[eastonfalcon19]

Thank you guys for taking a look at the card. I knew it was reprint but I didn't know the back was real. Why would somebody put a reprint on a real back?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by eastonfalcon19

Thank you guys for taking a look at the card. I knew it was reprint but I didn't know the back was real. Why would somebody put a reprint on a real back?

stupidity? it's probably the back from a common front...with the rationale being a crawford w/old mill back would be worth a lot more.

funny thing is a lot of t206 heads think old mills are actually tough(according to nonsensical pop reports)...so the pop of the destroyed old mill may have been a relatively tough combo...ie low pop card...some might surmise.

[eastonfalcon19]

That is pretty stupid...does a card like this have any value because of the back or is it just a worthless piece of cardboard?

[ullmandds]

I suppose theoretically if the back could be liberated from the bogus front...and if it were reunited to it's former front...it would have some value...not much...but some as an authentic card.

[eastonfalcon19]

How does a process like that work and how could I find the original card. Sorry for all of the questions not a big card collector.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by eastonfalcon19

How does a process like that work and how could I find the original card. Sorry for all of the questions not a big card collector.

unless you find the "doctor" and he/she admits to the wrong doing...and just happens to still have the front...and offers it to you...you won't find it!

[ullmandds]

best bet is to chalk it off as a loss...maybe soak the card to separate the 2...then you can sell the crawford as a rare...blank backed proof for thousands!