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Old 10-17-2018, 07:23 AM
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Is that the exact same card or just the exact same grade? One appears sharper than the other.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:43 AM
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Bobby might be onto something. The rough cut on the top border seems to have disappeared. The bottom card seems to have slightly wider left and right white borders. The corners also appear sharper. The serial numbers also don’t match. I can’t imagine SGC is deleting the old serial number and issues a new number for a reholdered card? This would destroy their pop report.

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Old 10-17-2018, 07:45 AM
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Bobby might be onto something. The rough cut on the top border seems to have disappeared. The bottom card seems to have slightly wider left and right white borders. The corners also appear sharper. The serial numbers also don’t match. I can’t imagine SGC is deleting the old serial number and issues a new number for a reholdered card? This would destroy their pop report.
Am I the only one that thinks the OP never implied that the two Mantles were the same card?
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:18 AM
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they are obviously not the same card...as the 2nd one has fatter left border.
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:26 AM
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PWCC scan is awfully shiny.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:09 PM
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"*Ebay for $8,700 and here's the 1956 Mantle SGC 8.5 (new holder) that was just sold on Ebay by PWCC for $15,656 (just by slapping a little HE sticker on the card)"

Apparently it was not just by slapping an HE sticker on the card, it is a different card
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"*Ebay for $8,700 and here's the 1956 Mantle SGC 8.5 (new holder) that was just sold on Ebay by PWCC for $15,656 (just by slapping a little HE sticker on the card)"

Apparently it was not just by slapping an HE sticker on the card, it is a different card
Yes it's a different card. Is the PWCC-HE worth $7,000 more ??
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:27 AM
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Am I the only one that thinks the OP never implied that the two Mantles were the same card?
I read it that way too.
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:32 AM
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Well....he said "(new holder)", which could either be taken as "the card is in a new holder", or "here is my original card in a new holder".
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Old 10-17-2018, 09:29 AM
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I read it that way too.
Just to clarify...the top card was MY SGC 8.5 that sold on Ebay for $8,700
The bottom card is a DIFFERENT SGC 8.5 that sold through PWCC for $15,656

Sorry for any confusion
BTW....re slabbed cards are given the same SN
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:40 AM
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Well, I know we are splitting hairs here, but the PWCC high end one, DOES appear to be a bit better. Is it DOUBLE the money better? I don't think so. PWCC seems to have a cult following though, which translates into higher prices.
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Am I the only one that thinks the OP never implied that the two Mantles were the same card?
Although the OP has clarified his post, I read it assuming it was the same card in a new holder with a high end sticker added. I did not examine the cards closely enough to notice the difference.
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Old 10-17-2018, 02:24 PM
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Although the OP has clarified his post, I read it assuming it was the same card in a new holder with a high end sticker added. I did not examine the cards closely enough to notice the difference.

I didn’t know it was a plug for the PWCC hi end sticker but wanted to point out that two different cards can sell for different prices based upon eye appeal.

Does anyone know the credentials or hobby experience of those giving the hi end sticker at PWCC??

I hope it’s more than they stayed at a holiday inn last night but am not sure. ��

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Old 10-17-2018, 02:30 PM
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Pretty much any card I want to sell over ~$200 goes straight to PWCC. I've had cards miss with them before (in fact, I just had a couple auctions close yesterday for less than I had anticipated), but for the most part, using PWCC is a no brainer. They get better prices and deal with all the headache of listing/sending out cards.

I used to list my high end stuff with auction houses like Heritage or Goldin, but even after negotiating with them to get the commission inline with PWCC, they still don't get the same attention/pricing for my cards that PWCC does. Moving forward, I think I'm going to list even my high end cards with PWCC and forego the traditional auction houses. The other benefit of PWCC is that you can send in cards monthly. Many other auction houses only have seasonal auctions, so you're stuck waiting around.
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Old 10-17-2018, 09:25 AM
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Is that the exact same card or just the exact same grade? One appears sharper than the other.
Exact same grade
Bottom card went for the higher price
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