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Old 08-26-2005, 05:42 PM
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There was mention made a few days ago that the rookie OF form Atlanta, Francour was the first major league to not draw a walk in his first 100 plate appearances. This struck me as somewhat amazing given the fact that for a number of years it took 7 balls to get a walk. In fact, in 1886, Piano Legs Gore drew 102 walks in 118 games when you still needed 7 balls for the BB. I find this mark much more incredible than any single season record Bonds has set.

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Old 08-26-2005, 05:49 PM
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If it wern't for intentional walks, players like Vlady Guerrero and Tony Gwynn probably would have went 100 games.

Some players love to chase stuff and many have success at hitting it.

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Old 08-26-2005, 05:52 PM
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If Bonds wasn't on steroids he wouldn't have set many Base on Ball marks either....

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Old 08-26-2005, 05:55 PM
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IBB are not counted in this record.

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Since you mentioned amazing I had to chime in about the "Amazing Mets". New callop first baseman Mike Jacobs became the first player ever to hit 4 homeruns in his first 4 games in the major leagues acording to the Elias Sports Bureau.

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Old 08-26-2005, 06:04 PM
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I saw that on SportsCenter last night. It's not that he just hit 4 HRs in his first 4 games, he a homer in each of his first 4 games, that is the record he set.

there was also a side note that Pedro Martinez fought to keep him on the roster as the Mets were going to send the kid back to the minors after the first game.

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I guess this is not so much a record as it is an interesting career oddity, but John Miller hit no HRs in his brief career, other than his first and last at bat in the majors.

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Old 08-26-2005, 08:53 PM
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Francouer's first walk WAS intentional, I am not sure if he waited out a traditional one yet...

Jacobs missed one game of hitting a HR, but added two in the next game to make up for it.

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I am not a big Ripken fan, but who is going to play baseball for over a decade and not miss a game unless some stunts are pulled ?? (PH every game)

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If I remember right, Ripken got put into a game or 2 for an inning or 2 to keep the streak alive

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Weren't all of Ripken's game "started"? Don't remember him ever making an appearance later in the game to keep it alive.

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Old 08-26-2005, 11:44 PM
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yes, they were all "started", but I am positive there were a few games where you he was pulled early in the game becuase of injuries.

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Frank Wakefield asked me post a scan of his Gore card, so here it is



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