Totally O/T but need help fast - 2004 ALCS Signed glove

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

I'm sure most of you, like myself have a great passion for modern stuff! lol...especially things that have come to the market in the last few years (laugh some more), in a world where modern sports memorabilia are as rare as the fountain of youth (continue laughing) ...

seriously, a relative of mine has the opportunity to purchase a signed glove w/ LOA from steiner from Kevin Millar. He wore it in the ALCS (and the WS some)....

so a few questions
a) What would you feel is a reasonable price for this piece?
b) How many different auto gloves from the WS are in existence?
c) Do you feel an item like this would retain it's value?
d) Do you have any ideas as to what items like this have sold for and where have they sold (mastro, lelands, etc..etc..)


I have been searching the web for this information, personally i think there are a million other things a die hard red sox fan might want, but i dunno...i have posted this in the GameUsed forum but haven't gotten any responses....

Leon - please don't kill me !!!



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Posted By: leon

The forum FAQ's state participants can post some o/t. I use the board for some O/T things too. I just don't do it all of the time. good luck

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Thx leon, i try not to, personally i think this piece is a great way to waste a lot of money, but i'm looking for substantiation from people that actually know things about autographed memorabilia.

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Posted By: Julie

It has occurred to me that if the Sox repeat, it will become last year's news...but it's from THE year they won
for the first time since '18. Hey that was fun. I paid $125 for it, and I know presspins.com wants 150.00. I should think a signed glove would have a tidy bit of value..

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Posted By: DJ

Ted,

Is it a batting glove or a fielding glove?

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

fielding glove...

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Posted By: DJ

Ted,

I can kind of relate to you as I dabble in the GU stuff (I own 30+ jerseys) and I love significant pieces that were used in memorable games.

I don't dabble much anymore because I don't like the "Steiner-fication" of the hobby and all the fraud.

a) What would you feel is a reasonable price for this piece?

If it was simply a Millar glove, the value would be around $500...less if he stayed a Marlin. But since it was used in a significant year and comes signed and has documentation, I would probably price this item out at $1,200 and maybe a tad more if it shows some nice wear. I think there would be more demand for his counterparts: Ortiz, Man, Schill, Damon, Foulke, Varitek...

b) How many different auto gloves from the WS are in existence?

Who knows. That's the beauty of the "new collecting world". I started a post in the GU Forum asking that question and it varies with teams. With something like the World Series, could you put it past Steiner to have several?

c) Do you feel an item like this would retain it's value?

The World Series was rather significant only in the point that it broke a long curse. The Series was rather forgettable, four and out. The playoffs were memorable though. Millar played little in the World Series if I remember. I think he started the first game and pinch hit for the rest.

A few months ago, Bill Buckner's 1986 game Seven glove appeared on eBay (not his sixth which Charlies Sheen auctioned off through Lelands) at a starting price of $1,995 and I think that glove is more significant than the Millar's and there were no takers at that starting price. I think as we get away from the year and perhaps the Red Sox win another, the value won't go down much, but perhaps the interest will in the general public.

Hope that helps a little...maybe the GU Forum will have more to say soon.

DJ

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Thank you DJ,
Great information, it was sort of what i thought with my little bit of knowledge ..but hearing it from someone who actually has a reasonable amount of knowlegde about the subject helps greatly.... email me if you want to know the price of the glove! Lol

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Posted By: Anson

Although I collect some modern stuff as well, I would probably pass on the glove unless it came cheap (Nothing Steiner seems to). For the above $1200 mentioned, I can think of a lot of other things I would rather have.........and would probably be a better investment if you're into that sort of thing.

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

I'm glad to hear that my opinions are shared by everyone else!

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Posted By: davidcycleback

I don't know about pricing, but a playoff worn fielding glove is a quality modern item, and Steiner is a reputable company. I don't know their relationship with the Red Sox, but Steiner is partner with the Yankees in the sale of Yankees game worn stuff.

Game used gloves are generally much rarer than jerseys and bats, as a comfortable glove is something the fielder wants to hang on to. Not so long ago I saw a Major Leaguer wearing the same glove he used in high school.

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

David -
That might be regarding rarity, but i think the price is what really threw me. I being a collector, always tell someone that if they want it enough and can afford it, no price is too high. But the price on this didn't seem to be reasonable.... if you're curious you can email me for the value. Of course I'm always biased toward spending good money on items over 50 years old.

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Posted By: DJ

Today Steiner's big head was telling the general public on his little retail access show how a player like Alex Rodriguez will a couple of jerseys for the whole year.

While it was a nice little challenge a long time ago to obtain a game used uniform, today you can find it in a retail store (the Yankee stars command five figures) or wait until the latest Grey Flannel catalog comes out and the buzzards at the GU Forum will pick apart the tagging.

I think there is a fine line between what is a "reasonable" price for something and what is simply "outrageous" when you are talking about something like the current Sports Memorabilia. After all, you can't open any catalog without seeing several Bonds, Rodriguez, Sosa and McGwire items.

Of course when I was in Boston earlier this year, I paid $30 to park a few feet from the Stadium.

DJ