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Old 12-27-2022, 08:15 AM
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Default Where is the third PSA 10 1952 Topps Mantle?

There are currently three PSA 10 1952 Topps Mantle. One is owned by Marshall Fogel. Another is owned by Ken Kendrick.

Anyone know who owns the third? I have heard rumors over the years, but nothing confirmed about this third psa 10 mantle.
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Old 12-27-2022, 08:19 AM
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That secret is guarded pretty zealously. Collector in NJ is what I have heard but that's it.
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Old 12-27-2022, 08:54 AM
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Is that the one submitted by a known card trimmer? Or was that Kendrick's?
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Is that the one submitted by a known card trimmer? Or was that Kendrick's?
Yes, it's that one.
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Is that the one submitted by a known card trimmer? Or was that Kendrick's?
I heard a rumor that he reviewed it multiply times when it was a 9 then it finally bummed to a 10.
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Old 12-27-2022, 09:05 AM
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I heard a rumor that he reviewed it multiply times when it was a 9 then it finally bummed to a 10.
If it was graded during the Baker era he probably just screamed at him loud and long enough that Mike caved. The stuff that used to go on at shows...
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If it was graded during the Baker era he probably just screamed at him loud and long enough that Mike caved. The stuff that used to go on at shows...
Maybe the card deserves it...who knows. Either way whomever has it is sitting on a GOLD MINE.
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Old 12-27-2022, 09:14 AM
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Maybe the card deserves it...who knows. Either way whomever has it is sitting on a GOLD MINE.
It may well, at least by the standards of the day.

Show bumps were very very common in the 90s. This was before half grades and you could certainly make a case that a lot of cards could go either way. I knew a guy who would go to Parsippany every month with a bunch of 86 Jordan 9s and he would always get a few bumped to 10s. PSA knew guys were flying in for the sole purpose of bumping cards and they made it worth their while.

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Peter G, a San Antonio forum member since 2010 and someone I have chatted with many times, used to own the 3rd Mantle in a 10. He sold it a long time ago though.
I agree it would be a gold mine today. It would be like hitting the lottery.
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Peter G, a San Antonio forum member since 2010 and someone I have chatted with many times, used to own the 3rd Mantle in a 10. He sold it a long time ago though.
I agree it would be a gold mine today. It would be like hitting the lottery.
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Peter paid what was a stupefying price in the day but it would be chump change now. As I recall Superior auctioned it for him and that's where the trail goes cold.
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Peter paid what was a stupefying price in the day but it would be chump change now. As I recall Superior auctioned it for him and that's where the trail goes cold.
Peter, any idea what year it was auctioned?
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Peter, any idea what year it was auctioned?
Around 2000/2001.
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Around 2000/2001.
Thanks. And it was a psa 10 back then? Wow.
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Thanks. And it was a psa 10 back then? Wow.
Yes, it was. Presumably whoever bought it then still owns it.
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How many 9s have we seen for sale? Rumor had it that one collector owned several of the 5 (or is it 6).
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How many 9s have we seen for sale? Rumor had it that one collector owned several of the 5 (or is it 6).
VCP lists 3 sales since 2006

$282,588 in 2006 at Memory Lane
$2,888,000 in 2018 at Heritage
$5,200,000 in 2021 via private sale as reported by PWCC

The $2.8 and $5.2 million card is the same example
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VCP lists 3 sales since 2006

$282,588 in 2006 at Memory Lane
$2,888,000 in 2018 at Heritage
$5,200,000 in 2021 via private sale as reported by PWCC

The $2.8 and $5.2 million card is the same example
And the person that last bought it, Rob G, is a very enthusiastic collector and forum member. He lives out of country, last we spoke. (which has only been a handful of times)
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And the person that last bought it, Rob G, is a very enthusiastic collector and forum member. He lives out of country, last we spoke. (which has only been a handful of times)
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Was he also not looking (posted here) for a 52 Topps Jackie Robinson PSA 9 (maybe higher?) to go with it?
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Was he also not looking (posted here) for a 52 Topps Jackie Robinson PSA 9 (maybe higher?) to go with it?
Yes, correct.
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Anyone seen pic of the 3rd 52 topps mantle psa 10?
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VCP lists 3 sales since 2006

$282,588 in 2006 at Memory Lane
$2,888,000 in 2018 at Heritage
$5,200,000 in 2021 via private sale as reported by PWCC

The $2.8 and $5.2 million card is the same example
There was an SGC 9.5 that a Jersey fella sold for #12.1 million fairly recently. Bought it for $50 k in 1991. Then the brothers from San Diego formerly of MA who had 5 of them had an 8.5 also. Not sure if that one was sold...
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Going through some old papers I came across this flyer that was mailed to me in 1997 showing a guy by the name of Rob Slack purchasing a 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 10. Cannot see the serial number on the card.
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Going through some old papers I came across this flyer that was mailed to me in 1997 showing a guy by the name of Rob Slack purchasing a 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 10. Cannot see the serial number on the card.
Interesting, any know Rob Slack and if he still has it (if it is the third one)?
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Interesting, any know Rob Slack and if he still has it (if it is the third one)?
As I posted, the mystery third one was auctioned in 2000 or 2001.
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Imagine a time, way back, when a PSA 10 '52 Mantle didn't even get a full page
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Only sold for 10K or so higher than a recent 9. Different world back then.
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It was owned by an individual who lived in either North jersey or the New York City area. I have his name and contact info somewhere. I think it’s in my first generation I phone. I was given it by the man himself when I was introduced to him by an owner of one of the grading services. I have not heard of it changing hands since then so I assume he still owns it. Thinking about it it could have been late 2008.

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It was owned by an individual who lived in either North jersey or the New York City area. I have his name and contact info somewhere. I think it’s in my first generation I phone. I was given it by the man himself when I was introduced to him by an owner of one of the grading services. I have not heard of it changing hands since then so I assume he still owns it. Thinking about it it could have been late 2008.
I am pretty sure it is, or was, New Jersey. I suppose he could have moved it privately to someone equally off the grid, otherwise he still has it. Not a bad ROI if so. 275K then, now.....
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