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Old 11-13-2017, 11:50 AM
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I placed bids on 11 T206's that were listed by PWCC. All had very nice centering and were graded by PSA between 5 and 6. Needless to say I didn't win a single card.
Several sold for much more than what I expected.
I guess cards that present nicely will sell for more that "ugly" cards.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:58 AM
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I placed bids on 11 T206's that were listed by PWCC. All had very nice centering and were graded by PSA between 5 and 6. Needless to say I didn't win a single card.
Several sold for much more than what I expected.
I guess cards that present nicely will sell for more that "ugly" cards.
Was the Lefty Grove in the '6' ugly? I didn't think so? But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:09 PM
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With PWCC and Probstein, or any large consignment firm for any hobby, they have three big things going for them. 1) They are reliable. It's not just some guy selling a card. 2) They do auctions, which combined with the reliability, draws people in. Who isn't watching a PSA 6 that's .99? They rely to some degree on the competitiveness of people bidding. 3) Listing a ton of cards at once is beneficial. It creates the one-stop-shop/"Oh, I get a discount on shipping for multiple items" effect. It works .... clearly.

Smaller sellers should just use a BIN with BO listing, know what you need to get, and go from there. If you bought a card for $400 more than you got for it, and you listed it shortly after getting it, then surely the idea was to make money from the go. Clearly auctions aren't working for you, so try something different. Unless you need to unload something quickly at the risk of doing so for less money, don't do an auction.
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With PWCC and Probstein, or any large consignment firm for any hobby, they have three big things going for them. 1) They are reliable. It's not just some guy selling a card. 2) They do auctions, which combined with the reliability, draws people in. Who isn't watching a PSA 6 that's .99? They rely to some degree on the competitiveness of people bidding. 3) Listing a ton of cards at once is beneficial. It creates the one-stop-shop/"Oh, I get a discount on shipping for multiple items" effect. It works .... clearly.

Smaller sellers should just use a BIN with BO listing, know what you need to get, and go from there. If you bought a card for $400 more than you got for it, and you listed it shortly after getting it, then surely the idea was to make money from the go. Clearly auctions aren't working for you, so try something different. Unless you need to unload something quickly at the risk of doing so for less money, don't do an auction.

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It's time to change your business model. A simple switch to BIN should yield positive results for you my friend.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:22 PM
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Yes it does seem that Robert does a fair share of complaining but I can relate to his frustration here. I do not think there is a full grade difference technically speaking on the two cards but clearly there are lots of holder buyers and a 7 is a much more significant grade on this card.

I am often disappointed in most of my consignments because typically in a true auction format where cards are not protected the results are nothing to write home about unless you have cards that are hot. The answer is to not compare apples to oranges because that is what you are doing if you compare your ebay listing to that of a PWCC listing.

I have been parking a good deal of stuff in my eBay store and wait it out to get my price or at least something close to what I want.
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Their cards sell for much more than anyone else’s on eBay . Good for them I only hope it’s for all the right reasons . Now we are all numb on this subject . Like other subjects that come up occassionly here .
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Their cards sell for much more than anyone else’s on eBay . Good for them I only hope it’s for all the right reasons . Now we are all numb on this subject . Like other subjects that come up occassionly here .
Touche....to quote the late, great Jack Soo from Barney Miller. His last line on the show. "I have nothing to add".
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Their cards sell for much more than anyone else’s on eBay . Good for them I only hope it’s for all the right reasons . Now we are all numb on this subject . Like other subjects that come up occassionly here .
More than other sellers on ebay yes, but not more than the major AHs.

I have tried to sell $2000 and $3000 and $5000 cards on eBay and gone nowhere. People are hesitant to wire some dude somewhere real money, even with good feedback. Say what you want about PWCC (and I often have), they are a known brand and people feel comfortable buying (or overpaying for) high end (HE) cards from them.
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More than other sellers on ebay yes, but not more than the major AHs.

I have tried to sell $2000 and $3000 and $5000 cards on eBay and gone nowhere. People are hesitant to wire some dude somewhere real money, even with good feedback. Say what you want about PWCC (and I often have), they are a known brand and people feel comfortable buying (or overpaying for) high end (HE) cards from them.
Ironically, a known brand that does "no marketing," "has no catalog," and "really doesn't do anything to sell your cards," according to some.
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More than other sellers on ebay yes, but not more than the major AHs.

I have tried to sell $2000 and $3000 and $5000 cards on eBay and gone nowhere. People are hesitant to wire some dude somewhere real money, even with good feedback. Say what you want about PWCC (and I often have), they are a known brand and people feel comfortable buying (or overpaying for) high end (HE) cards from them.
I find that hard to believe when eBay has your back 100%. So you’re saying more people trust PWCC and not eBay?
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Old 11-13-2017, 05:06 PM
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I find that hard to believe when eBay has your back 100%. So you’re saying more people trust PWCC and not eBay?
Ebay is just a venue...both I and PWCC sell on Ebay....for some reason, I truly believe we can have the EXACT same card....same grade....same centering, everything....99 times out of 100, the PWCC card will sell for more.
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Old 11-13-2017, 02:32 PM
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Was the Lefty Grove in the '6' ugly? I didn't think so? But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Uh, I believe that I stated T206's.
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