FYI....T206 El Principe de Gales confirmed list

[tedzan]

To date, there are 283 confirmed T206 cards with the EPDG back.....they are listed here as a function of their respective T206 series.


150/350 Series................82 subjects

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Abbaticchio (brown sleeves)
Ball (New York)
Bates
Beaumont
Bender (portrait)
Bergen (bat)
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bresnahan (portrait)
M. Brown (portrait)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Chance (red portrait)
Chase (pink portrait)
Chase (white cap)
Chesbro
Cicotte
Clarke (portrait)
JJ Clarke
Coveleski
Crandall (no cap)

Criger
Dahlen (Boston)
George Davis (Chicago)
Delehanty (Washington)
Donlin (seated)
Donovan (portrait)
Dooin
Doolin
Durham
Evers (portrait)
Ewing
Ganley
Gibson
Gilbert
Griffith (portrait)
Hemphill
Herzog (New York)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Jennings (portrait)
Johnson (portrait)

Tom Jones (St Louis)
Jordan (portrait)
Karger
Keeler (portrait)
Keeler (bat)
Killian (pitching)
Kling
Konetchy (glove high)
Lajoie (throwing)
Leach (portrait)
Lindaman
Lobert
Lumley
Lundgren (Cubs)
Magee (portrait)
Marquard (hands at side)
McQuillan (ball in hand)
Mullin (throwing)
O'Leary (portrait)
Overall (portrait)

Owen
Powell
Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Schaefer (Detroit)
Schlei (catching)
Seymour (bat)
Shaw (St Louis)
Shipke
Spade
Spencer
Steinfeldt (portrait)
Stovall (portrait)
L Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (portrait)
Turner
Wagner (bat on left)
Walsh
Weimer
Wilhelm (arms at chest)

CYoung (portrait)
CYoung (bare hand)


350-only Series................102 subjects

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Abbott
Anderson
Atz
Barbeau
Barger
Batch
Beck
Bender (trees)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Burke
Burns
Bush
Campbell
Casey
Collins (A's)

Collins (Minneapolis)
Congalton
Cravath
Cree
Davidson
Demmitt (New York)
Dineen
Joe Doyle (hands over head)
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Easterly
Egan
Evans
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Freeman
Fromme
Gasper

Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Gray
Groom
Hallman
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell
Hofman
Hoffman (Providence)
Hulswitt
Jackson
Kelley
Kisinger
Kleinow (catching-NY)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Kruger
Lattimore

Lavender
Livingstone
Lord
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Maddox
Mattern
McAleese
McCormick
McLean
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan
Myers (fielding)
Nattress
Oakes
Oberlin
Pfeister (seated)
Phillippe
Purtell
Puttman
Quillen

Rhoades (arm extended)
Rhodes
Rudolph
Schlafly
Scott
Shannon
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Smith (Buffalo)
F. Smith (Chicago)
Stanage
Stephens
Sweeney (Boston)
Jesse Tannehill
Taylor
Thomas
Titus
White (Buffalo)
Willett
Wilson

Wright
Zimmerman


Six Super-Prints

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Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Mathewson (dark cap)


350/460 series................56 subjects

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
George Davis (Chicago)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)

Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake, St. Louis (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifeld (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)

Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Jeff Sweeney
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (Chicago-pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (throwing)
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)
CYoung (glove)



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460-only Series................37 subjects

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands over head)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Chance (bat)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Duffy
Larry Doyle (portrait)
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hand on waist)
Hummel

Lake, St. Louis (ball)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schulte (back view)
Sheckard (glove)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat


This survey is still a work in progress.....any new EPDG inputs from you guys are greatly appreciated.

Thanx


TED Z
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[teetwoohsix]

Thanks for this list,as well as all of the others. This is one I was really hoping to see,thanks for the hard work TedZ!!

Sincerely,Clayton

[cfc1909]

I question Adkins. I have chased the Baltimore combos for more than a decade and can not confirm Adkins/EPDG.

[milkit1]

cool thread. anxiously awaiting your old mill list

[cdn_collector]

Ted,

Should "Hinchman (Toronto)" say "Hinchman (Toledo)" ?

Regards,

Richard.

[tedzan]

The Adkins was reported by Joe's Vintage Cards.


Have you checked out any of the POP reports or Registry's for this card with an EPDG back ?


TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Have you checked out any of the POP reports or Registry's for this card with an EPDG back ?

I don't have access to PSA but the SGC pop report does not show an Adkins EPDG.

[tedzan]

Richard

Thanks for checking that out. I have corrected Hinchman's team to read Toledo.


TED Z

[ethicsprof]

great fun seeing this EPDG list and remembering the 'old days' when we began discussing the 'few' epdg's around and your detective light bulb brightened the way for so many great theories and research.
thanks again for all the hard and insightful work.
best,
barry

[Bridwell]

Hi Ted,

PSA pop report shows no Adkins with El Principe.

[cfc1909]

I have done some digging on this one but can not locate any Adkins EPDG.

It was reported by a very reliable source, so I will keep looking.

[caramelcard]

I had a Bender (no trees) and traded it to another board member long ago.

Not sure if you made a mistake or if both poses are possible.

Rob

[tedzan]

Hi Rob

Bender (no trees) has been added to this list.

SGC shows one card graded of Bender (no trees).

SGC shows three cards graded of Bender (trees).


Best regards....and, thanks for your input.

TED Z

[tedzan]

Anderson has been reported by a Net54 reader.


TED Z

[ethicsprof]

great find, ole buddy.
epdg's always bring back the memories!!
all the best,
barry

[tedzan]

Hi Barry

Your EPDG thread (circa 2005) was a classic....it served as a catalyst for the subsequent research that followed regarding T206's on Net54.

The best to you and Margaret,

TED Z

[pgellis]

Now that it ended last night, I wanted to point out that Goodwin had a Rucker, Throwing in EPDG that is not on your list.

And boy oh boy! It is an SGC50 and ended last night for $561.00

[tedzan]

Thanks Phil for the Rucker (throwing) input.

The EPDG list has been updated.

TED Z

[tedzan]

To date, there are 283 confirmed T206 cards with the EPDG back.

Abbaticchio (brown sleeves)
Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Abbott
Ames (hands over head)
Anderson
Atz
Baker
Ball (New York)
Ball (Cleveland)
Barbeau
Barger
Batch
Bates
Beaumont
Beck
Bell (follow thru)
Bender (portrait)
Bender (trees)
Bender (no trees)
Bergen (bat)

Bergen (catching)
Berger
Bescher (hands over head)
Blackburne
Bliss
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bradley (bat)
Brain
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Bresnahan (portrait)
Bridwell (with cap)
M. Brown (portrait)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Burchell
Burke
Burns
Bush

Camnitz (arms folded)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Campbell
Casey
Chance (red portrait)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chance (bat)
Chase (pink portrait)
Chase (white cap)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Chesbro
Cicotte
Clarke (portrait)
JJ Clarke
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Collins (A's)
Collins (Minneapolis)

Congalton
Conroy (bat)
Coveleski
Crandall (no cap)
Crandall (cap)
Cravath
Crawford (bat)
Cree
Criger
Dahlen (Boston)
Davidson
Harry Davis (A's)
George Davis (Chicago)
Delehanty (Washington)
Demmitt (New York)
Devore
Dineen
Donlin (bat)
Donlin (seated)
Donovan (portrait)

Dooin
Doolan (bat)
Doolin
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Joe Doyle (hands over head)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Larry Doyle (portrait)
Dubuc
Duffy
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Durham
Easterly
Egan
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evans
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Evers (portrait)
Ewing

Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Ford
Freeman
Frill
Fromme
Gandil
Ganley
Gasper
Geyer
Gibson
Gilbert
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Gray
Griffith (portrait)
Griffith (bat)
Groom
Hallman

Hannifan
Hartsel
Hemphill
Herzog (New York)
Herzog (Boston)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell
Hofman
Hoffman (Providence)
Hulswitt
Hummell
Jackson
Jennings (portrait)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (portrait)
Johnson (pitching)
Tom Jones (St Louis)
Jordan (portrait)

Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Karger
Keeler (portrait)
Keeler (bat)
Kelley
Killian (pitching)
Kisinger
Kleinow (catching-NY)
Kling
Knight (bat)
Konetchy (glove low)
Konetchy (glove high)
Krause (portrait)
Kruger
Lajoie (throwing)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake, St. Louis (no ball)
Lake, St. Louis (ball)
Lattimore

Lavender
Leach (portrait)
Leach (cap)
Leifeld (bat)
Lindaman
Livingstone
Lobert
Lord
Lumley
Lundgren (Cubs)
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Maddox
Magee (portrait)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Marquard (hands on side)
Mathewson (dark cap)
Mattern
McAleese
McCormick

McGraw (glove at hip)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McLean
McQuillan (ball in hand)
McQuillan (bat)
Meyers (portrait)
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan
Mullin (bat)
Mullin (throwing)
Murphy (bat)
Murray (portrait)
Myers (fielding)
Nattress
Needham
Nichols (bat)
Oakes
Oberlin
Oldring (batting)

O'Leary (portrait)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (portrait)
Overall (yellow sky)
Overall (blue sky)
Owen
Pastorius
Payne
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeffer
Pfiester (seated)
Pfeister (throwing)
Phillippe
Powell
Purtell
Puttman
Quillen
Reulbach (no glove)
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rhodes

Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Rucker (throwing)
Rudolph
Schaefer (Detroit)
Schlafly
Schlei (catching)
Schulte (back view)
Scott
Seymour (bat)
Seymour (throwing)
Shannon
Sharpe
Shaw (St Louis)
Shaw (Providence)
Sheckard (glove)
Shipke
Smith (Brooklyn)
Smith (Buffalo)
F. Smith (Chicago)

Snodgrass (catching)
Spade
Spencer
Stahl (glove)
Stanage
Steinfeldt (portrait)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Stephens
Stovall (portrait)
Stovall (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (Boston)
Sweeney (New York)
Jesse Tannehill
L Tannehill (Washington)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Taylor
Thomas
Tinker (portrait)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)

Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Titus
Turner
Wagner (bat on left)
Wagner (bat on right)
Walsh
Weimer
Wheat
White (Buffalo)
Doc White (Chicago-pitching)
Wilhelm (arms at chest)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willett
Willetts
Willis (throwing)
Willis (bat)
Wilson
Wiltse (pitching)
Wright
CYoung (portrait)

CYoung (bare hand)
CYoung (glove)
Zimmerman


This survey is a work in progress....any new EPDG inputs are really appreciated.

Thanks,

TED Z

[tedzan]

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To date, there are 285 confirmed T206 cards with the EPDG back.....they are listed here as a function of their respective T206 series.


150/350 Series................83 subjects

Abbaticchio (brown sleeves)
Ball (New York)
Bates
Beaumont
Bender (portrait)
Bergen (bat)
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bresnahan (portrait)
M. Brown (portrait)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Chance (red portrait)
Chase (pink portrait)
Chase (white cap)
Chesbro
Cicotte
Clarke (portrait)
JJ Clarke
Coveleski
Crandall (no cap)

Criger
Dahlen (Boston)
Harry Davis (A's)
Delehanty (Washington)
Donlin (seated)
Donovan (portrait)
Dooin
Doolin
Durham
Evers (portrait)
Ewing
Ganley
Gibson
Gilbert
Griffith (portrait)
Hemphill
Herzog (New York)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Jennings (portrait)
Johnson (portrait)

Tom Jones (St Louis)
Jordan (portrait)
Karger
Keeler (portrait)
Keeler (bat)
Killian (pitching)
Kling
Konetchy (glove high)
Lajoie (throwing)
Leach (portrait)
Lindaman
Lobert
Lumley
Lundgren (Cubs)
Magee (portrait)
Marquard (hands at side)
McQuillan (ball in hand)
Mullin (throwing)
O'Leary (portrait)
Overall (portrait)

Owen
Pastorius
Powell
Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Schaefer (Detroit)
Schlei (catching)
Seymour (bat)
Shaw (St Louis)
Shipke
Spade
Spencer
Steinfeldt (portrait)
Stovall (portrait)
L Tannehill (Washington)
Tinker (portrait)
Turner
Wagner (bat on left)
Walsh
Weimer

Wilhelm (arms at chest)
CYoung (portrait)
CYoung (bare hand)


350-only Series................102 subjects

Abbott
Anderson
Atz
Barbeau
Barger
Batch
Beck
Bender (trees)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Burke
Burns
Bush
Campbell
Casey
Collins (A's)

Collins (Minneapolis)
Congalton
Cravath
Cree
Davidson
Demmitt (New York)
Dineen
Joe Doyle (hands over head)
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Easterly
Egan
Evans
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Freeman
Fromme
Gasper

Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Gray
Groom
Hallman
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell
Hofman
Hoffman (Providence)
Hulswitt
Jackson
Kelley
Kisinger
Kleinow (catching-NY)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Kruger
Lattimore

Lavender
Livingstone
Lord
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Maddox
Mattern
McAleese
McCormick
McLean
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan
Myers (fielding)
Nattress
Oakes
Oberlin
Pfeister (seated)
Phillippe
Purtell
Puttman
Quillen

Rhoades (arm extended)
Rhodes
Rudolph
Schlafly
Scott
Shannon
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Smith (Buffalo)
F. Smith (Chicago)
Stanage
Stephens
Sweeney (Boston)
Jesse Tannehill
Taylor
Thomas
Titus
White (Buffalo)
Willett
Wilson

Wright
Zimmerman



350/460 series................57 subjects

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
George Davis (Chicago)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)

Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake, St. Louis (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifeld (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)

Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (portrait)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Jeff Sweeney
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (Chicago-pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (throwing)
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)
CYoung (glove)



460-only Series................37 subjects

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands over head)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Chance (bat)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Duffy
Larry Doyle (portrait)
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hand at waist)
Hummel

Lake, St. Louis (ball)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schulte (back view)
Sheckard (glove)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat


Six Super-Prints

Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Mathewson (dark cap)


This survey is a work in progress....any new EPDG inputs are greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

T-Rex TED
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[Leon]

Nice work Ted. Here is an ad that might have an association though I am not sure.

[tedzan]

Neat item....does it have any connection with EPDG ? I'd say yes. This brand of Cigars (and Cigarettes) was founded in the late 1880's.....and, was in operation till 1920.

Check-out this link, I think it may tell us something......

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/f...fl0120data.pdf


TED Z

[Leon]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Neat item....does it have any connection with EPDG ? I'd say yes. This brand of Cigars (and Cigarettes) was founded in the late 1880's.....and, was in operation till 1920.

Check-out this link, I think it may tell us something......

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/f...fl0120data.pdf


TED Z

That is a very informative document for EPDG Ted. Thanks for sending it along. There are definitely ties in to Key West and other FL locales.

[Thromdog]

Hi Ted,

Sitting at 176 unique EPDGs at this point with a goal of 200 and then some. I'll post my collage once I update it.

Anyway......

I went through your confirmed list and have a couple of edits to possibly add or change.

1. Harry Howell with hands at waist (460 only series) is a confirmed one not on your list. I believe 3 or so were sold as part of the SACO auctions last year.
2. I think the F Smith is the Smith, Frank white cap version, not the F. Smith the 150/350 version is commonly called. Just want to avoid the confusion on that one.
3. Jeff Sweeney of the 350/460 series is confirmed and not in your latest list but was listed previously. I think this might be a clerical error as you have Steinfeldt portrait listed twice, including one in the 350/460 group which he is not a part of.

That being said, I do have a few notes that I'd like to add for this thread
1. Pastorius, Hunky Shaw, and Willett (without the s) all have 0 cards graded on both the SGC and PSA pop reports plus have no records of any sold. I find that odd because no other EPDG cards have less than 3 graded between the 2 pop reports. I'm having doubts on these but would tentatively defer to people indicating they have them.
2. Back to Frank Smith White Cap. The pops show 3 total graded between the 2 but I have no records of one ever having been sold and have scoured the net looking for anyone that's had one available and have come up with none. I would kill to see one. I want one.

I think your number would then be 284, but I personally think it's 281.

Thanks for creating these threads!

[tedzan]

Hi Jeff

I haven't updated my list of EPDG's in 2 years. So, I appreciate your new inputs.

I will incorporate your info into my list.


Thanks,

TED Z
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[pharoh690]

Im a baltimore collector also,i was wondering why dunn and jackson are the only ones with EPDG

[tedzan]

Hi George

Don't count out Strang....he may be found with an EPDG back.

TED Z