I got screwed over on the BST today!

[Luke]

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[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by cozmokramer

Awesome update as if 10/11... Yeah!

My friend ran into an unforeseen circumstance and he presented my with the opportunity to be able to buy back my PSA 2mc Mantle card from him.

So I'm back to where I was before all this hoopla started.

Now holding a PSA 1 and PSA 2mc Mantle as a result of all this, it's time to start all over and figure out how to turn those two into an upgrade.... Probably a PSA 4 is what I'll look for!

What a dilema, having 2 52 #311 Mick rookies.
I love mine, and glad i got it before the 'boom' , on the bay, 2's are asking 14-16k and upwards to 21k for a 2.5 centered well. However i ran across a 2.5 affordable & centered one around or near 13k, and looks presentable ending today that be a good looker or is it hooker.
BTW- show us both your Micks, us post-war guys love to see them.

Originally Posted by cozmokramer

Awesome update as if 10/11... Yeah!

My friend ran into an unforeseen circumstance and he presented my with the opportunity to be able to buy back my PSA 2mc Mantle card from him.

So I'm back to where I was before all this hoopla started.

Now holding a PSA 1 and PSA 2mc Mantle as a result of all this, it's time to start all over and figure out how to turn those two into an upgrade.... Probably a PSA 4 is what I'll look for!

Interesting how you immediately pulled the listing for the PSA 2 (MC) on Friday as soon as I asked you if it was the same one you claimed to have sold to a friend for a loss in the opening post of this thread.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Bowman-...:X:AAQ:US:1123

Equally interesting that you posted this status update after I told you I was trying to decide whether or not to share the knowledge of this with the board.

[cozmokramer]

They are 51 bowman, not 52 topps.

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[pawpawdiv9]

Sorry bro, i been stuck on 52's all day, Nice pics btw. Still nice to have 2 of them 51's.
I can see where you want a more presentable one or one without the crease thru the player. You should go for the upgrade. Mine is a BVG 2 and centered nice, love the more affordable grades that look well. The 51 is a undervalued card compared to his 52.

[cozmokramer]

Yep, as soon as I knew I was getting it back I listed it in hopes to get more $, but I'm not really sure at this point the best way to upgrade these two for one higher graded one.

If you recall, I had a deal for a PSA 3 and the seller turned out to be an unethical piece of sh*t

Originally Posted by cozmokramer

Yep, as soon as I knew I was getting it back I listed it in hopes to get more $, but I'm not really sure at this point the best way to upgrade these two for one higher graded one.

If you recall, I had a deal for a PSA 3 and the seller turned out to be an unethical piece of sh*t

Or you never sold that PSA 2(MC), as you claimed to for added sympathy, and are a drama queen. I mean you literally pulled the listing minutes after I messaged you about it on ebay.

[cozmokramer]

You clearly don't know how to do business, everyone on here has confirmed that. You've screwed many people and I have PMs in my box confirming it.

As for what happened with the Mantle, you'll do and say whatever you can to smear someone else and deflect the focus off of you and your bad dealings. The truth is I don't care what you think. Your a lowly piece of sh*t as I said before and that's that.

Feel free to continue to post as much as you want, after this I won't even respond as your not even worth the time it takes to respond.

Originally Posted by cozmokramer

You clearly don't know how to do business, everyone on here has confirmed that. You've screwed many people and I have PMs in my box confirming it.

As for what happened with the Mantle, you'll do and say whatever you can to smear someone else and deflect the focus off of you and your bad dealings. The truth is I don't care what you think. Your a lowly piece of sh*t as I said before and that's that.

Feel free to continue to post as much as you want, after this I won't even respond as your not even worth the time it takes to respond.

I actually had no intention of smearing you or I would have done it on Friday when I called you out on it through ebay. It wasn't worth bumping the thread from my perspective. Then I read your "awesome update" today and figured I would share what I know. People can draw their own conclusions, but you and I both know you pulled the listing minutes after I asked you about it.

[cozmokramer]

Blah blah blah blah. The only thing you and I know is that we made a deal, I paid you over $3000, then you backed out... Wanting more $ of course.

Maybe I should share the PMs from others where you did the same thing to them and then said you'd still do the deal for an extra $100.

Your a piece of sh*t. I'll continue to repeat that until you stop posting or I get banned from the board. For now I'll make sure NOBODY ever does a deal with you so you can't continue your shady practices.

Originally Posted by cozmokramer

Blah blah blah blah. The only thing you and I know is that we made a deal, I paid you over $3000, then you backed out... Wanting more $ of course.

Maybe I should share the PMs from others where you did the same thing to them and then said you'd still do the deal for an extra $100.

Your a piece of sh*t. I'll continue to repeat that until you stop posting or I get banned from the board. For now I'll make sure NOBODY ever does a deal with you so you can't continue your shady practices.

Do you honestly think I give a rats ass what you do? You sound like a bitter high-school girl who got dumped before prom. Trust me, I enjoy owning the Mantle and have no interest in selling it at this time.

[mattsey9]

[Peter_Spaeth]

Dan bought one but his seller reneged on him, so Dan in turn reneged on his buyer, Cozmo. Cozmo in the meantime sold one but then bought it back, listed it on ebay but pulled it, and also bought another one. So it's status quo except Cozmo now has a second one. That, and a bunch of profanity all around. Fair summary?

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Dan bought one but his seller reneged on him, so Dan in turn reneged on his buyer, Cozmo. Cozmo in the meantime sold one but then bought it back, listed it on ebay but pulled it, and also bought another one. So it's status quo except Cozmo now has a second one. That, and a bunch of profanity all around. Fair summary?

And these are the Story line for the soap opera "As the Stomach Turns". Yawn

[HRBAKER]

A good trainwreck all the way around.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by cozmokramer

Blah blah blah blah. The only thing you and I know is that we made a deal, I paid you over $3000, then you backed out... Wanting more $ of course.

Maybe I should share the PMs from others where you did the same thing to them and then said you'd still do the deal for an extra $100.

Your a piece of sh*t. I'll continue to repeat that until you stop posting or I get banned from the board. For now I'll make sure NOBODY ever does a deal with you so you can't continue your shady practices.

That pretty bad of seller if all this drama around pulling the card for the $3,000.00 and then said would sell the card for $100 more which would be $3100...

there was also a post about him saying he was going to change his mind in the morning but then after seeing a post or something he didnt go through on the $3000

correct me if im wrong that you didnt agree to sell the card after all this drama for $3100...cause i honestly may be incorrect in my understanding..

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

That pretty bad of seller if all this drama around pulling the card for the $3,000.00 and then said would sell the card for $100 more which would be $3100...

there was also a post about him saying he was going to change his mind in the morning but then after seeing a post or something he didnt go through on the $3000

correct me if im wrong that you didnt agree to sell the card after all this drama for $3100...cause i honestly may be incorrect in my understanding..

No, our deal was for $3250. I backed out and immediately refunded because I chose to keep the card after a deal I had in place for an upgrade got backed out of by another seller. It was a bad move on my part and I accept the consequences.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

No, our deal was for $3250. I backed out and immediately refunded because I chose to keep the card after a deal I had in place for an upgrade got backed out of by another seller. It was a bad move on my part and I accept the consequences.

ah ok so you didnt try to get 100 more from the buyer after the refund...my bad.........also you said you accept the consequences....but now do you regret the consequences...?

also full disclosure: i did buy psa 5 Leaf Jackie robinson from Gobucs and the transaction went fine without a hitch a few months ago..

I regret listing the card for sale before I had the upgrade in hand and I am sorry for backing out of the deal with Eric. Not sure how I can both accept and regret the consequences but I do wish none of this ever happened and acknowledge that it's my fault.

[Kevin.Shenker]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

ah ok so you didnt try to get 100 more from the buyer after the refund...my bad.........also you said you accept the consequences....but now do you regret the consequences...?

also full disclosure: i did buy psa 5 Leaf Jackie robinson from Gobucs and the transaction went fine without a hitch a few months ago..

My understanding is that the 100.00 more was on another person's deal by the same seller. The person who was to buy a card at x, then offered the card at x + 100.00 mailed the original poster about their failed deal.

[cozmokramer]

What does my character have to do with what method you used to pay him?

[frankbmd]

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