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Old 04-06-2013, 06:40 AM
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There are several people here that are interested in that ticket stub and any information you can provide would be helpful to the hobby. If you could share the full scan and any additional information, it would be appreciated...for instance, forger from Michigan's name, if consigner is from Michigan, etc.
Tell me, James, how is that going to help the "several people here that are interested in that ticket stub?"
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:59 AM
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Tell me, James, how is that going to help the "several people here that are interested in that ticket stub?"
How is anything you have posted so far going to help those SAME people...ask yourself that question. Better yet, how is anything you have ever posted going to help...you fish for people rather than teaching people to fish. Knowledge is power my friend and if it can't be shared, then what importance does it have.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:11 AM
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Chris,

I think it was your good friend Kevin Nielson who introduced the world to a skilled forger by the name of Greg Marino...what if he had not written Operation Bullpen and the FBI would have kept quiet the names of those involved...if you have information that will help improve the hobby, then why keep it a secret....
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:17 AM
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I think it was your good friend Kevin Nielson who introduced the world to a skilled forger by the name of Greg Marino...what if he had not written Operation Bullpen and the FBI would have kept quiet the names of those involved...if you have information that will help improve the hobby, then why keep it a secret....
Are you serious, James?

With all respect to Kevin Nelson, the "Operation Bullpen" participants were all interviewed and discussing Greg Marino years before the book "Operation Bullpen" came out.

There were interviews in the Sweetspot News, SCD and other publications well before Kevin's book.

There was also the HBO Special (my good friends Shelly, Rich and I were participants) that aired in Jan. 2006.
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Old 04-06-2013, 02:22 PM
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Are you serious, James?

With all respect to Kevin Nelson, the "Operation Bullpen" participants were all interviewed and discussing Greg Marino years before the book "Operation Bullpen" came out.

There were interviews in the Sweetspot News, SCD and other publications well before Kevin's book.

There was also the HBO Special (my good friends Shelly, Rich and I were participants) that aired in Jan. 2006.
Well Operation Bullpen is where I first heard the name Greg Marino and that is what led me to the HBO special, etc. I am 31 years old and have to feel that most my age are probably in that same boat. All that aside, you get my point. These are autographs, not a cure for cancer or war secrets.
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:05 PM
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Well Operation Bullpen is where I first heard the name Greg Marino and that is what led me to the HBO special, etc. I am 31 years old and have to feel that most my age are probably in that same boat. All that aside, you get my point. These are autographs, not a cure for cancer or war secrets.
Ask myself or Richard how serious the forgers are about their business.

Richard has been sued twice and I've been threatened hundreds of times over the past decade.

You have no idea, James. You don't have a clue.

Did you read that personal attack directed at me from those pathetic cowards over at ANL!!!
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:20 PM
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Ask myself or Richard how serious the forgers are about their business.

Richard has been sued twice and I've been threatened hundreds of times over the past decade.

You have no idea, James. You don't have a clue.

Did you read that personal attack directed at me from those pathetic cowards over at ANL!!!
I read it and I understand how tough it must be to take down forgers, but at the same time...why bring up such vague details that YOU KNOW people are going to want to learn more about....why dangle the carrot?
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:11 AM
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How is anything you have posted so far going to help those SAME people...ask yourself that question. Better yet, how is anything you have ever posted going to help...you fish for people rather than teaching people to fish. Knowledge is power my friend and if it can't be shared, then what importance does it have.
Do you really think it's as easy and simple as that, James?
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:15 AM
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Maybe it is, maybe it isn't...but, you has always stood by JSA and he evidently got this wrong, so any information would be appreciated. If you can't share, then just refrain from putting it out there.

Your name is "thetruthisoutthere"...if it is, then share...If not, then change your name to "thetruthisouttherebutitsmineallmine"
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:34 AM
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Maybe it is, maybe it isn't...but, you has always stood by JSA and he evidently got this wrong, so any information would be appreciated. If you can't share, then just refrain from putting it out there.

Your name is "thetruthisoutthere"...if it is, then share...If not, then change your name to "thetruthisouttherebutitsmineallmine"
James, I have shared a ton of information with the hobby over the last decade or so.

I have done so at risk to myself because it is worth it. I have been physically threatened a few times. One was threatening enough that I had to document it with my local police department in case something happened to me.

Some information I will never share. A lot of of the information I acquire is through my own efforts. Some of it is entrusted to me.

James, have you ever thought about taking the time, effort and expense to do what I do?

If you ever do, then you will know exactly what I mean.

It isn't as easy as you say it is.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:44 AM
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And I will repeat this; I had someone here relay a message of concern to Huggins & Scott about the Babe Ruth Signed Ticket auction a week before I posted this.

I was hoping that Huggins & Scott would have taken it down and at the least, had it re-examined.

We'll just have to see how this all plays out.
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they did have it re-examined by spence and he said it was good, why would they take it down because you said so with no explanation just "i said so"

it might be bad, it might be good, but you just keep the info to yourself, that's ridiculous. why post it in the first place? just to be coy? no one cares anymore if everything is james bond ejector seat theatrics.

when we show boxing, we can explain and will explain each psa or jsa screwup to anyones satisfaction. why, how and in detail just what is wrong with the signature, why can't you do that? do you know ruth, if so, share!!
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James, I have shared a ton of information with the hobby over the last decade or so.

I have done so at risk to myself because it is worth it. I have been physically threatened a few times. One was threatening enough that I had to document it with my local police department in case something happened to me.

Some information I will never share. A lot of of the information I acquire is through my own efforts. Some of it is entrusted to me.

James, have you ever thought about taking the time, effort and expense to do what I do?

If you ever do, then you will know exactly what I mean.

It isn't as easy as you say it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...

How difficult is it to post the entire Ruth piece, inscription, and all?
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