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Old 11-20-2011, 07:07 PM
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Default Willie Mays and Joe Dimaggio Feedback please

Hello I found these few months ago and I would like to get you some feedback on the signatures. I received these TTM when I was a kid around 30 years ago or so.

I got the "bug" back in collecting autograghs over the past year and I appreacted any feedback on the piece.

Thanks everyone for your help

Steve

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Old 11-20-2011, 07:28 PM
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The Willie Mays looks like a wife-signed through-the-mail (TTM) autograph.
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Old 11-20-2011, 07:32 PM
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Here is an example of a Willie Mays autograph that was signed by his wife.

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Old 11-20-2011, 08:58 PM
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I'm not sure about Joe either. I would vote that he did not sign this. It looks to me that there are some inconsistencies with other DiMaggio exemplars that I've seen through the years.

I'm curious to see how others feel about this DiMaggio 3 x 5....
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:48 AM
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Default Joe and Willie Auto

Thanks Craig & Chris, I was somewhat leery of Willie’s, but I felt “good” and got some positive feedback on regarding Joe’s signature

I’m curious too see what other kind of feedback if anyone else can share your expertise on these

Thanks again for your help
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:58 AM
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Hello I found these few months ago and I would like to get you some feedback on the signatures. I received these TTM when I was a kid around 30 years ago or so.

I got the "bug" back in collecting autograghs over the past year and I appreacted any feedback on the piece.

Thanks everyone for your help

Steve

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Here is an example of a Willie Mays autograph that was signed by his wife.

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Hey Chris. I'm certainly not an autograph guy, but these two Mays examples in which you state that both are the work of Mrs. Mays look nothing alike in my opinion. Not even close.

Can you please elaborate on how you came to the conclusion that Mrs. Mays was the author of both of these? Thank you.

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Old 11-21-2011, 08:28 AM
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Hey Chris. I'm certainly not an autograph guy, but these two Mays examples in which you state that both are the work of Mrs. Mays look nothing alike in my opinion. Not even close.

Can you please elaborate on how you came to the conclusion that Mrs. Mays was the author of both of these? Thank you.
Not even close? Really?

Do yourself a favor and print both of them and study them.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:29 AM
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Thanks Craig & Chris, I was somewhat leery of Willie’s, but I felt “good” and got some positive feedback on regarding Joe’s signature

I’m curious too see what other kind of feedback if anyone else can share your expertise on these

Thanks again for your help
You are welcome, Steve.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:48 AM
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Not even close? Really?

Do yourself a favor and print both of them and study them.
Relax Chris. I'm not attacking you. I'm simply asking you to point out the difference. I already stated that I'm not an autograph guy, so I was just looking for your reasoning. I can't print them out as I don't have a printer but maybe someone here can help out and put the two signatures side by side.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:53 AM
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OK. I was able to get these side by side. They still don't look alike to me at all. What should I be looking for to support your findings?

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Old 11-21-2011, 08:56 AM
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Relax Chris. I'm not attacking you. I'm simply asking you to point out the difference. I already stated that I'm not an autograph guy, so I was just looking for your reasoning. I can't print them out as I don't have a printer but maybe someone here can help out and put the two signatures side by side.
I know you're not attacking me, sorry if my "inflection" implied that. The point I was making is that I would like you to really study the two Willie Mays that are posted here.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:59 AM
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The Willie Mays looks like a wife-signed through-the-mail (TTM) autograph.
Chris,
What's your take on the Joe D.?
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:12 AM
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Ok...so I also have a few of these Mays autos that may or may not have been signed by him. I have seen some of the above examples that were slabbed by JSA as authentic so my question is....is there a ghost of a chance that either of those Mays signatures that were compared in the post above are genuine Mays' signatures?
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:31 AM
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Ok...so I also have a few of these Mays autos that may or may not have been signed by him. I have seen some of the above examples that were slabbed by JSA as authentic so my question is....is there a ghost of a chance that either of those Mays signatures that were compared in the post above are genuine Mays' signatures?
Can you post them here please.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:00 AM
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I have looked at the Mays auto's posted above and noticed there are som obvious differences to them but the main question is...are either of them authentic?

In response to Chris' request...this is an example of the Mays autograph I received years ago.

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Old 11-21-2011, 11:00 AM
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I know you're not attacking me, sorry if my "inflection" implied that. The point I was making is that I would like you to really study the two Willie Mays that are posted here.
Instead of telling Jimmy to "figure it out himself," Chris, why don't you help him out?
(Like he first asked you to.)
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:02 PM
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I have looked at the Mays auto's posted above and noticed there are som obvious differences to them but the main question is...are either of them authentic?

In response to Chris' request...this is an example of the Mays autograph I received years ago.

Andrew, unfortunately, your Willie Mays is also "secretarial."
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:04 PM
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Thanks for the response. I honestly thought that to be the case because all the examples I have seen of "good" Mays' autos over the year never fully looked like this one.

Thanks for the assistance
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:24 PM
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Default Wille and Joe D PSA examples

Here are some PSA, I love to get some feedback especially before I spend any money on nice framing on these for my office
Does anyone have some thoughts on Joe auto's below? Willie I think is tough too now, but I know we have some better experts than I on this one

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