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Old 06-25-2015, 08:25 PM
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Default Upside down White & Doyle

I can confirm that upside down White & Doyle have matching backs. It might not be super clear in the scans but I have both in hand and they match. This means that these two cards are in opposite positions, equal rows and columns from the center, sides, top/bottom, horizontal axis, etc. If we can link either of these two to a center/side/each-other via scratch we could make a lot of progress quickly. I look forward to seeing any scratches, neighbors, two-namers, etc that you have. Another piece in the sheet-size puzzle...
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Old 06-26-2015, 02:25 PM
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Nice work Steve,

Doyle is on one of the sheets that has two different subjects with identical scratches indicating the back plates were used on two different fronts.

Stone is a match for Doyle and I think the sheet with Stone on it would
have been the one that White was on because Doyle is a 150 only subject
and White isn't, so we should eventually find a Stone with the same partial
scratch that Doyle and the upside down White have.

Here's the sheet I'm referring to if you click on the link you can magnify it
and get a better look. We are still working on this sheet but I think the
Cobb/Tinker belongs on the right (back of sheet) not the left.

There are a few spots where the second subject with a matching scratch haven't been found yet and if/when a White scratch is found it will probably be a match to either Pattee, Reulbach or Burch.

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Old 06-26-2015, 06:48 PM
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That sheet is incredible Pat. If White does match one of those subjects that would indicate single subject columns. If he is found with a different set then this sheet would be one half of a huge two subject per column sheet. If he is never found with scratches he may be on another half of a two subject column that was never scratched. So many possibilities.
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Old 06-27-2015, 06:21 PM
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Jantz stated in this BST thread that he thought these Stone and Elberfeld
name at tops came from the same sheet and I agree with him. They are also along side each other on the plate scratch sheet in the link I posted above.
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Old 06-29-2015, 07:24 PM
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This Young has already been posted but this is a much better scan (of a different card).
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I'm not sure if this will help in any manner.

In fact, I'm not quite sure if it's a printing mark, or just added ink.

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A couple new ones. No idea if they're already recorded or not. Walsh is questionable, but figured I'd post it. The P150 is Schaefer.

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I can confirm that upside down White & Doyle have matching backs. It might not be super clear in the scans but I have both in hand and they match. This means that these two cards are in opposite positions, equal rows and columns from the center, sides, top/bottom, horizontal axis, etc. If we can link either of these two to a center/side/each-other via scratch we could make a lot of progress quickly. I look forward to seeing any scratches, neighbors, two-namers, etc that you have. Another piece in the sheet-size puzzle...


Almost three years ago Steve pointed out in this thread that the upside
down back of White matched up with a Doyle back.

At the time I searched and couldn't find a Doyle or Stone (Doyle and
Stone share the same position on a plate scratch sheet) that had a print
flaw that is on the smaller portion of the second back on the upside down
White.

This Doyle that sold on ebay recently has that mark.
Doyle that matches White upside down back.jpgDoyle that matches White upside down back. Back.jpg
White (port) Upside Down Back PD 150 - Copy.jpg
White (port) Upside Down Back PD 150.jpg
So far Doc White hasn't been found with a plate scratch but if
one is eventually found it should allow us to figure out the exact
size of this plate scratch sheet based off the upside down White.


If the link works it should be a scan of that sheet that can be enlarged.
https://photos.imageevent.com/patric...ts/C-D%201.jpg

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That's great work again Pat. Exciting to see pieces continue to fall into place.
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