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Old 04-03-2016, 08:52 PM
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I know this is true for the 45' series, but what about 43' (not sure if they played one in 44'). If I remember correctly #9 in the 45' series was attributed to a college player (Oregon State maybe). I'm not defending the jersey, just questioning.
Is there anything that dates this jersey to a specific year? The photo provided was from the 1945 series where he wore #23, and Williams erroneously states that it is the jersey in the picture. Nothing in the item description says that another person wore #9 in one of the possible years for the jersey. Also notable that there is no authentication provided.

Adding in the fact that it hails from the collection of Barry Halper and anyone who buys the jersey thinking Williams actually wore it is deluding himself.

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Old 04-03-2016, 09:14 PM
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Adding in the fact that it hails from the collection of Barry Halper and anyone who buys the jersey thinking Williams actually wore it is deluding himself.

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Ditto the "Ruth" mitt.
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Old 04-03-2016, 09:34 PM
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Is there anything that dates this jersey to a specific year? The photo provided was from the 1945 series where he wore #23, and Williams erroneously states that it is the jersey in the picture. Nothing in the item description says that another person wore #9 in one of the possible years for the jersey. Also notable that there is no authentication provided.

Adding in the fact that it hails from the collection of Barry Halper and anyone who buys the jersey thinking Williams actually wore it is deluding himself.

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By stating "attributed" I was recalling a lineup or scorecard I've seen from the series. I only asked the date because there were multiple series and one of the Williams "letters" mentions 1943. The 43 series was on the east coast, but I think they wore jerseys with trimmed letters. If that style of Jersey was only worn in 45, then yeah it wasn't worn by Williams.
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Old 04-04-2016, 11:23 AM
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***Update on the Williams Navy Uniform***

I didn't see it in my email originally, but Goldin Auctions contacted me very soon after my original post requesting what info I had. After speaking with them today, they have amended the item and removed all mention of it having been worn by Williams in a game. It is now shown as a period uniform that is autographed by Williams.

Good job by Goldin on that front for sure.

https://goldinauctions.com/1940s_Ted...-LOT21440.aspx

Tom C

EDIT: I see that it still says that it was likely worn by Williams during the period from the original description. Not sure if that maybe cannot be removed? In red across the top they have corrected to being a period uniform signed by Williams.

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Re: Lot 339 - 2015 Josh Donaldson Game Used and Signed Toronto Blue Jays Postseason Away Jersey (PSA/DNA)

I sent this to a Goldin rep and then posted this here unfortunately without waiting very long for the auction house to respond and possibly to amend (if they chose to). It was posted and emailed to give them the head's up, not to criticise. The auction house's response has been quick and amendments have been made.

https://goldinauctions.com/2015_Josh...-LOT21633.aspx

Just thought I should point something out to you, regarding the Donaldson Jays jersey in your current action (pls see link and item listing above).

I am a rabid and long time Jays fan and collector and can tell you with 100% certainty that the road gray Toronto jerseys weren’t worn in the 2015 Jays postseason run.

The Jays only wore their “alternate” jerseys, the dark blues throughout the entire 2015 ALDS and 2015 ALCS, both at home and away. There were only 5 postseason road games played by Toronto in the postseason (Game 3 & 4 of the ALDS in Texas and Games 1, 2 & 6 of the ALCS in KC) and if you look at the following game recap links you will see that the grays were not worn (btw..the photo in the last link is hard for me to view, even now ).

Game 3 ALDS http://www.680news.com/2015/10/13/bl...s-game-3-alds/
Game 4 ALDS http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...alds/73841916/

Game 1 ALCS http://www.thestar.com/sports/blueja...s-tonight.html
Game 2 ALCS http://m.mlb.com/news/article/154785...ys-alcs-game-2
Game 6 ALCS http://wtop.com/mlb/2015/10/royals-r...n-alcs-game-6/

Still a great jersey, and one that was no doubt readied for PS Game use, and possibly used in the regular season prior to being crested for intended use in the PS, but unfortunately couldn’t have seen PS game action.
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I am issuing this post as an apology to Goldin Auctions and its consignor of the circa 1912 Babe Ruth catcher’s mitt. I have been shown evidence that proves to my satisfaction that my prior statements on the issue were incorrect. I have, accordingly, withdrawn my prior posts and write to wish Goldin Auctions much success on its auction
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I am issuing this post as an apology to Goldin Auctions and its consignor of the circa 1912 Babe Ruth catcher’s mitt. I have been shown evidence that proves to my satisfaction that my prior statements on the issue were incorrect. I have, accordingly, withdrawn my prior posts and write to wish Goldin Auctions much success on its auction
Can you comment on what the new evidence is?
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Can you comment on what the new evidence is?
I second the motion.
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