baseball playoffs

[MattyC]

What a laugh. Trying to slight Clayton Kershaw and Aaron Judge in the same bilious post.

Seize upon all the cherry-picked snapshots you want; such intentional myopia belies the bigger picture. Nothing you say changes the fact that those are two excellent baseball players, worthy of respect.

[frankbmd]

I shan't regurgitate for I suffer from bilious myopia.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by MattyC

What a laugh. Trying to slight Clayton Kershaw and Aaron Judge in the same bilious post.

Seize upon all the cherry-picked snapshots you want; such intentional myopia belies the bigger picture. Nothing you say changes the fact that those are two excellent baseball players, worthy of respect.

Facts aren't a laugh. If you can't handle the truth, that is your problem. The poster I responded to is the king of cherry picking stats. I am just filling in what he is deliberately omitting, so there is a complete picture. I am sorry that it upsets you so much to know the whole truth about your idols.

[MattyC]

Oh, I can handle the whole truth. You aren't presenting whole truth, though, are you? You are merely citing specific pieces of the overall picture of two star players that fit a negative narrative.

The salient fact is Kershaw and Judge are fantastic baseball players, flaws and all. I have enormous respect for anyone who even gets drafted. That's how hard the game is, and how good someone has to be to even make it that far. Performing as Kershaw has, or as Judge has his rookie year? Those are enormous accomplishments.

[GregC]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Oh, I can handle the whole truth. You aren't presenting whole truth, though, are you? You are merely citing specific pieces of the overall picture of two star players that fit a negative narrative.

The salient fact is Kershaw and Judge are fantastic baseball players, flaws and all. I have enormous respect for anyone who even gets drafted. That's how hard the game is, and how good someone has to be to even make it that far. Performing as Kershaw has, or as Judge has his rookie year? Those are enormous accomplishments.

Forget telling the whole picture, it's far easier to be an old, curmudgeonly Internet forum poster that only highlights the negative while leaving out the other side of things. When called on it you can just shake your fist to the sky and scream "You can't handle the truth!" Works every time.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by GregC

Forget telling the whole picture, it's far easier to be an old, curmudgeonly Internet forum poster that only highlights the negative while leaving out the other side of things. When called on it you can just shake your fist to the sky and scream "You can't handle the truth!" Works every time.

Better that than an ageist young punk who hasn't lived long enough to know much.

[1952boyntoncollector]

It todays era of baseball..if you can put up 2 runs or less in 6 innings in the playoffs and worlds series as a starting pitcher in every start you are worth a 100 million dollar contract. How many starting pitchers this year went 6 innings in a start..and how many of those gave up 2 earned or less. both are hard on their own. Nobody can slight a guy for not going more than 6 innings in the playoffs anymore. Its about as silly as saying a closer sucks now cause he doesn't pitch 3 innings like the old days..

[frankbmd]

Houston didn't get your memo Jake, about the irrelevance or the third, fourth and fifth starters in the postseason. Morton and McCullers looked pretty good, eh?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

It todays era of baseball..if you can put up 2 runs or less in 6 innings in the playoffs and worlds series as a starting pitcher in every start you are worth a 100 million dollar contract. How many starting pitchers this year went 6 innings in a start..and how many of those gave up 2 earned or less. both are hard on their own. Nobody can slight a guy for not going more than 6 innings in the playoffs anymore. Its about as silly as saying a closer sucks now cause he doesn't pitch 3 innings like the old days..

Justin Verlander did it all 3 starts and came out of the bullpen in between to get another win. 4-0 1.46 ERA.

[GregC]

Great run from the Yanks. Sad to see it end.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by GregC

Great run from the Yanks. Sad to see it end.

+1 Now I have to wait till next year to watch baseball.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Can the Yankees get 4-5 decent innings out of Sabathia?

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Oh, I can handle the whole truth. You aren't presenting whole truth, though, are you? You are merely citing specific pieces of the overall picture of two star players that fit a negative narrative.

The salient fact is Kershaw and Judge are fantastic baseball players, flaws and all. I have enormous respect for anyone who even gets drafted. That's how hard the game is, and how good someone has to be to even make it that far. Performing as Kershaw has, or as Judge has his rookie year? Those are enormous accomplishments.

Kershaw is great and has a body of work substantial enough to point to (and of a sample size large enough to form conclusions on , unlike his postseason numbers which are pretty much pointless, like all postseason stats)

Judge, however, is a different story, I posted a few pages back a fairly in depth list of reasons why his hitting profile could potentially end badly. It may not! I'm not the type to make guarantees, I'm not Kreskin, but he will need to make some adjustments and improve his contact rate or we could see him crash and burn pretty quickly. Below league avg contact rates combined with a high BABIP and a higher BB% than he ever had in the minors tends to point towards struggles in his 2nd year. Plus, he's no spring chicken as a rookie.