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Old 10-10-2017, 04:05 PM
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Ended on eBay were two 1940 Playball Ted Williams' cards. The SGC 80 sold for about $50. less than the SGC 70. Significantly better centering on the SGC 70, I was underbidder, darn it. Centering counts big, even over a higher technical grade.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:22 PM
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No doubt....I sold a Kaline rookie SGC 6 with pretty poor centering. It sold for around what '4's go for.
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I will pay way more for a card with great centering than one without it, as a type collector. It is being more difficult, as there are 220+ needed, but a lot of fun doing it with the T205s. Centering on individual cards is usually key for me and the technical grade isn't really important at all.... ..As I restock a few faves, T205 Cobb and Goudey 144 Ruth, it will be centering that is very/most important.... This 3rd of 3 faves is close to unimprovable in the centering dept....back for an encore...
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Old 10-11-2017, 08:24 AM
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Ended on eBay were two 1940 Playball Ted Williams' cards. The SGC 80 sold for about $50. less than the SGC 70. Significantly better centering on the SGC 70, I was underbidder, darn it. Centering counts big, even over a higher technical grade.
As the potential buyers dwindle on these items, the active buyers get to be more picky and that to me is why centering keeps going up value wise.

Its not like T206 wagner cards centering is the main thing...

but yeah when you have 2,000 cards to pick from and less than 200 buyers of those cards to pay the prevailing 'market' rates, centering becomes the it thing.

you can see on ebay for many vintage cards 20 or so listings of a psa 4-6 card HOF for example in the 60s but none centered well..

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Old 10-11-2017, 05:15 PM
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As the potential buyers dwindle on these items, the active buyers get to be more picky and that to me is why centering keeps going up value wise.

Its not like T206 wagner cards centering is the main thing...

but yeah when you have 2,000 cards to pick from and less than 200 buyers of those cards to pay the prevailing 'market' rates, centering becomes the it thing.

you can see on ebay for many vintage cards 20 or so listings of a psa 4-6 card HOF for example in the 60s but none centered well..
I don't think that guys collect nicely centered cards because it is the "it" thing, as you say. Personally, I can't live with an off-centered card. It drives me nuts. Call it OCD or whatever, but I love symmetry. It is just more pleasant to look at. I know that there are many more out there like me.

I collect rare Cobb postcards that have populations FAR lower than the T206 Wagner, and while I may be forced to buy an off-centered copy because it may be the last time I will see one for 10 years, I would hate the card. It would irk me into madness. On more common cards, it isn't a matter of how much more I would pay for the centered one, because the off-centered one isn't even a consideration. I doubt that the bidders on the two Play Ball cards were even the same guys. We collectors are a special kind of crazy.
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:48 PM
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I don't think that guys collect nicely centered cards because it is the "it" thing, as you say. Personally, I can't live with an off-centered card. It drives me nuts. Call it OCD or whatever, but I love symmetry. It is just more pleasant to look at. I know that there are many more out there like me.
My centering OCD isn't too bad, I have a harder time with weak images (faded, out of focus, etc). Of course I'd like a card with great centering and image, but if I have to choose I'll pick the strong image every time. Just my personal preference.
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Good centering obviously makes for better presentation, as well as coloring and focus, and all of that. Would you guys agree that for the most part a PSA with a (MC) would go for less than a PSA of the same grade with (MK), assuming the mark is on the reverse?

For the record, I don't care for the qualifiers. If a 4 with "(MC)" is really a 2, just give it a 2.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:58 AM
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I totally get the centering thing - and if a well centered card is within my budget - I'll go for it. ...but I really don't mind off-centered cards. Nothing in life has ever been perfect and the same goes with my collection. Haha Plus - an off-centered card is a bit easier on the wallet!
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:17 PM
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My OCD can't deal with off center cards. I'll take a well centered card with a dinged corner over razor sharp corners on a 80/20 centered card any day.
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I must be in the minority, and have been for 30 years. for a mid-grade card, I look at the corners first. I prefer a card in nicer shape and a little OC, rather than a card with rounded corners and nice centering.
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