NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you give an opinion of a person or company your full name needs to be in your post. Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-07-2017, 11:26 AM
hshrimps hshrimps is offline
Henry Shrimps
member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 88
Default REA Old Mill unopened pack

There is a nice Old Mill unopened pack in REA....

What would u do if you have 10 of these Old Mill unopened packs, would u at least open one and check whether there's any t206/t210 card inside? (I would)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-07-2017, 12:49 PM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is offline
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 3,880
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hshrimps View Post
There is a nice Old Mill unopened pack in REA....

What would u do if you have 10 of these Old Mill unopened packs, would u at least open one and check whether there's any t206/t210 card inside? (I would)
I would open it even if I only had one pack, would also hope it was a T210.
__________________
T210 Series 3 Ft Worth, looking for low end examples and especially ones with a Y shaped hole punch. I also have some extra T210's for trade.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-07-2017, 02:45 PM
rdwyer's Avatar
rdwyer rdwyer is offline
Rich.ard Dwy.er
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 869
Default

I would open if I only had one pack also. But I would want a T206
__________________
Successful B/S/T with - Mrios, mrvster, richieb315, jlehma13, Ed_Hutchinson, Bigshot69, SMPEP & others
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-07-2017, 03:05 PM
1880nonsports's Avatar
1880nonsports 1880nonsports is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 966
Default perhaps the cart before the horse

factory and stamp are only SUGGESTIVE of a card. The pack may have been produced 3/4 years AFTER any cards were included. Also, for me (NOT an expert) the cellophane/onion skin thing bothers me a little. I have owned 5/6 DIFFERENT early brands with the covering and none have had a cancel date (when available) earlier than 1917.

It's a COOL pack. I am only starting a conversation for them what might be interested. Perhaps I'm completely wrong. I CAN say that owning a few or more of these packs and not opening one is also a bit "mysterious". I have opened a pack from 2 different cartons in my years of doing this. One was a Sweet Caporal of the same vintage. Neither had a card inside and I made that QUITE CLEAR when I went to sell all but the first one. I guess what I'm suggesting is that there are likely a few variables at play - not withstanding WHAT KIND OF CARD might be included if there was one.

I ran thru the listing a bit quickly - carton shown????

OK - have at it - I can take it. Remember - it's only an opinion.

No guarantees whether written or implied.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-07-2017, 09:42 PM
hshrimps hshrimps is offline
Henry Shrimps
member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 88
Default

My guess is the owner had already opened one of those ten packs that he had and he knows there's no t206/t210 inside but obviously he wouldn't tell anyone otherwise he wouldn't make any money on those remaining packs that he had.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-07-2017, 11:23 PM
1880nonsports's Avatar
1880nonsports 1880nonsports is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 966
Default I think it said

long time advanced collector. If so he/she would know that CONFIRMING the existence of a card would exponentially increase the value of the packs.

With unopened material - more often than not - it's about selling the sizzle and not the steak......
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-10-2017, 12:10 PM
NYHighlanderFan NYHighlanderFan is offline
Joe
member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Mt. Pleasant, PA.
Posts: 68
Default

It's my pack! Feel free to message me with any questions!

No...I did not open one, as I just do not believe in destroying artifacts as I found them. And by opening one of these, it would be altering the artifact forever. Feel free to discuss these amazing packs with me anytime! It was an incredible collection of packs, all full. A&G tins and soft tobacco packs, Fatima, Relu and quite a few full cigar boxes were also included in the find as well as the 10 Old Mills and its original carton! It was almost like a bunch of NOS found from an old General Store up in North Dakota. And they are pure white under the fragile outer rice paper wrapper.

I traded one of these to a board member back in June. His photos and testimonial was left in the June Pickups thread from a few months ago. Feel free to check that out too!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-10-2017, 02:24 PM
Cerberus Cerberus is offline
member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 141
Default Never Any Guarantees............

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1880nonsports View Post
factory and stamp are only SUGGESTIVE of a card. The pack may have been produced 3/4 years AFTER any cards were included. Also, for me (NOT an expert) the cellophane/onion skin thing bothers me a little. I have owned 5/6 DIFFERENT early brands with the covering and none have had a cancel date (when available) earlier than 1917.

It's a COOL pack. I am only starting a conversation for them what might be interested. Perhaps I'm completely wrong. I CAN say that owning a few or more of these packs and not opening one is also a bit "mysterious". I have opened a pack from 2 different cartons in my years of doing this. One was a Sweet Caporal of the same vintage. Neither had a card inside and I made that QUITE CLEAR when I went to sell all but the first one. I guess what I'm suggesting is that there are likely a few variables at play - not withstanding WHAT KIND OF CARD might be included if there was one.

I ran thru the listing a bit quickly - carton shown????

OK - have at it - I can take it. Remember - it's only an opinion.

No guarantees whether written or implied.


No one is going to "come at you" on this post. Everything that you've said is absolutely true.

I'm the board member who acquired one of these unopened packs back in June, and posted same here, in a couple of different threads.

When acquiring an unopened tobacco pack, there is never a guarantee that same includes a card of any kind--much less a baseball card. All collectors like me can ask for, is a properly dated tax stamp and some evidence that the representations being made by the seller/consignor re the pack being unopened and not having been tampered with, are true.

In this case, I have known and done business with the consignor for many years (as the circle of collectors with a focus on these types of packs, is quite small). He told me all about the "find," and sent extensive pictures. I'm sure he would have no problem posting a pic of the partial carton here, or send it to anyone who asks, via pm. We have completed several transactions in the past, and I can state with full confidence that the Old Mills pack(s) in question are unopened, have the properly-dated tax stamp and are almost as fresh as the day they were manufactured.

Yes, there are no guarantees that there's a card inside, but I would never, ever open one of these packs to find out. The mystery is half the fun!

Michael
Attached Images
File Type: jpg OldMill1.jpg (42.4 KB, 319 views)
File Type: jpg OldMill3.jpg (50.3 KB, 315 views)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-10-2017, 02:49 PM
rats60's Avatar
rats60 rats60 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 976
Default

Can't you feel the pack to tell if there are cards on it? I don't collect these, but another collector I know picked up a pack (SC I believe) and he said that he could feel the cards in the pack.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-10-2017, 03:23 PM
hshrimps hshrimps is offline
Henry Shrimps
member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 88
Default

Is the pack sealed on the top/bottom? It looks like there aren't any seal and the "pull out shell" can easily taken out from the case.

Also, can someone post how the carton box look like?
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
unopened pack (mr. x) Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 8 09-02-2005 10:04 AM
Unopened Mecca Pack Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 2 11-09-2002 06:31 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:21 PM.


ebay GSB