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Old 10-12-2017, 12:27 PM
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This is really disturbing! I don't pretend to be an expert on identifying counterfeits. I'm doing my best to learn and read things on here. But one thing I will say is at times depending on the card I do pay a bit of a premium to get a graded version to increase the chances that its legit. I didn't realize there are lots of counterfeits in slabs. I totally get the second hand autograph authentication can be a bit of a crapshoot but I thought the card market was pretty tight.
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:51 PM
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The buying feedback on all of those eBay accounts mentioned is full of reprints.

What does that tell you? Slabs all look bad.

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Old 10-12-2017, 05:35 PM
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This seems like an important topic so was moved to the front page for more eyes to view it. Fraud is always a black eye for the hobby.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:23 PM
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Not an exhaustive resource by any means, but here is an article I wrote several years ago on this issue. I made some updates last year. Here is a link to the article.

http://bbcemporium.com/california-craigs-list-psa-scam/
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:29 PM
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Here is a side by side comparison of the good and bad card
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:32 PM
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Here is a side by side of the Mantle
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So with a few adjustments to the label, the cards can pass as good. How many counterfeiters have already made those adjustments? Pretty scary for collectors of high grade cards.
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So with a few adjustments to the label, the cards can pass as good. How many counterfeiters have already made those adjustments? Pretty scary for collectors of high grade cards.
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You don't see to many pre war rare cards done like this. Prewar Rare cards will always keep their value compared to the high graded commodities.

I remember when the SMR came out in early 2000s. Dealers were always using the Krause SCD price guide to buy cards and then they would use the SMR to sell their cards.
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Scary, sure, but if you avoid sellers with red flags it'll help. He's also selling a coin with some suspicious bidding, a coin which was re-listed since yesterday when it had some REALLY suspicious bidding. Also low feedback. Just danger signs all over the place.
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:34 AM
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These cards have been making the rounds for at least 10 years. There's is/or was a few Jordan rookies, etc. Craigslist was a favorite spot. Needs money bad, no time for auction. Father died, mother died etc. If it seem to good to be true, with these it definitely is.
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