Need help verifying a card

[Armystrong7979]

I have a babe Ruth card from 1933 it's him with 3 others on the card. How do I know if it's real?

[familytoad]

It might be a 1935 Goudey.


Those cards featured 4 players, in small boxes (all Braves in this card's case) and a puzzle piece back.
Do you have a scan or cell phone picture?
Easy to ID with a pic

[Armystrong7979]

I'm using a cell phone how do I upload pics

[familytoad]

http://www.net54baseball.com/faq.php...b3_attachments

Hopefully that link helps, you have to be able to steer this upload feature to the memory card or internal storage of the cell phone that holds your picture.

I'm using a iPAD right now, so I can't grab it from email and post for you, but if worse came to worse, others here may offer to help. It's a friendly group

[Armystrong7979]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

I'm using a cell phone how do I upload pics

Heres the front of the card any help would be appreciated.

[Armystrong7979]

Here's the back of it.

[familytoad]

edited out

[Armystrong7979]

I already own it was considering selling it, but would like to know its value before I decide what to do with it.

[iwantitiwinit]

I know nothing about 1935 Goudey's but am guessing it's a fake. It's similar to this recent ebay listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-goudey-...item2ed789f9a8

The seller has a poor feedback rating and he had revised this listing most likely to add that it was a reprint in the description since he didnt note it in the title. Your card is similar as its in a similar holder and the set-up with the card and signature are aligned the same way. Also curious how you have this 1935 Goudey card with signature and dont know what you have.

[iwantitiwinit]

Hmmm my curiosity is growing. In a prior post you gave your opinion on an ebay scammer that sold a Gehrig goudey. In that post one of our other frequent posters slidekellyslide interestingly pointed out that the seller of that card had an ebay name stonesour7979 a name that is very similar to your armystrong7979. I just did a search of the stonesour7979 on ebay and when I do that the seller daddyof41336 pops up does this mean stonesour7979 changed his name to daddyof41336?

That seller, daddyof41336 is currently selling a 1962 topps Mickey Mantle. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantl...item3cee77fac6. Daddyof41336 does have 100% feedback though.

Guess who else is selling/sold an ungraded 1962 Topps Mickey Mantle? The same seller johnny9856 who sold the other Babe Ruth Goudey with cut signature similar to the card you say you own here with similar set-up. Here is the link to the other 1962 mantle: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Topps-M...-/201200071674

I find these names Armystrong7979, stonesour7979, daddyof41336 and johnny9856 to all be very intriguing. What is also intriguing are the cards in question, the fake Gehrig goudey, your 1935 Goudey with Ruth cut signature in a screwdown holder, the other Goudey with Ruth cut signature in similar holder I cited in the thread above (here is that link again: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-goudey-...item2ed789f9a8) and the 2 1962 Mantle's (see the negative feedbacks that johnny9856 has).

Does anyone else find all this interesting? I have edited this post because I maybe looking at ebay history incorrectly but Is daddyof41336 the same as stonesour7979? Can someone help me with this part of the puzzle.

If I'm off base I apologize in advance.

[AJR]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

If I'm offbase I apologize in advance.

Off base? No way! You're more on base than Robinson was in the '55 series... Just ask Yogi!

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

If I'm off base I apologize in advance.

I've got a feeling that we won't be hearing from Mr. Armystrong 7979 after your detective work. Nice job.

"And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids"

[Leon]

Interesting stuff. I love how these happen sometimes. It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.

[iwantitiwinit]

Leon, I edited my above post because I am not sure I am looking at the ebay history correctly, is daddyof41336 the same as stonesour7979? Can someone help me with this part of the puzzle.

If not then mea culpa relative to the Mantles's (but awfully coincidental) but I believe the rest of the story holds true relative to the other cut signature and the similarity of the screw down holders and the way the card is set up with the signatures below.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

Leon, I edited my above post because I am not sure I am looking at the ebay history correctly, is daddyof41336 the same as stonesour7979? Can someone help me with this part of the puzzle.

If not then mea culpa relative to the Mantles's (but awfully coincidental) but I believe the rest of the story holds true relative to the other cut signature and the similarity of the screw down holders and the way the card is set up with the signatures below.

It's kewl, I am almost positive you are sniffing the correct (skunk) scent. Here is our newest members (Armystrong7979) original USER ID which he told me he didn't want to use..

Daddyof47979

and who does this guy think we are anyway?


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[whelenfan]

Man, do I love this kind of stuff! You would think that someone looking through posts on our forum would recognize the "intense research level" of a lot of our members and yet they don't think that these same members will discover under handed ness with this same intensity level. I have learned so much since I have joined. Thanks to all!

[slidekellyslide]

Yes, they are the same person...he admitted it to me in PM last night.

[Armystrong7979]

I've admitted everything and even apologized just trying to move on but I have no idea who johnny is that had nothing to do with me sorry again guys for the headaches

[K-Nole]

This is why this group is the most amazing group in our hobby, on the net.

The knowledge this group has is just amazing and so helpful to others.

So glad I found this group.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

I've admitted everything and even apologized just trying to move on but I have no idea who johnny is that had nothing to do with me sorry again guys for the headaches

Good enough for me. Just quit trying to deceive people and do the right things in life. It's much better Karma that way and you will be far more successful, trust me. I speak from experience.

[Armystrong7979]

Will do and sorry again I didn't wanna stir any shit in here but the card I have in question here is legit just wondering if it is real cuz I don't know how to spot fake goudeys if real how much is it worth and is it worth to send off to get graded

[iowadoc77]

Precisely why I like this forum. The BS filter is set to very sensitive here. I am still very much in the learning phase in this hobby having picked up where I left off in 1992...que the laughing at my worthless late 80s early 90s collection. I am becoming much more educated thanks to this forum. A special shout out to Leon. Thanks for overseeing this forum. I am very appreciative

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

Will do and sorry again I didn't wanna stir any shit in here but the card I have in question here is legit just wondering if it is real cuz I don't know how to spot fake goudeys if real how much is it worth and is it worth to send off to get graded

First of all, try using some punctuation in your sentences. It will make them easier to read. Aren't my sentences easier to read than your long run on ones?

If you can post a better picture of the card we might better be able to tell if it's real or not. I am fairly sure it isn't because of the bottom left corner on the front. If I am not mistaking that is some really white looking paper under the wear to that corner. If it is then that is a dead giveaway it's not real.

ps...if this is about the autograph, I will leave that to others...but usually when there is one fake there are others.

[mybuddyinc]

Originally Posted by Leon

It's kewl, I am almost positive you are sniffing the correct (skunk) scent. Here is our newest members (Armystrong7979) original USER ID which he told me he didn't want to use..

Daddyof47979

and who does this guy think we are anyway?


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Come on, Leon, I think we're a bit smarter than you think

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[Stonepony]

I don't think this thread has anything to do with the card. It's hoping someone will bite on the auto.

[Armystrong7979]

I don't want anyone to bite on the auto never mentioned it. I just asked a question about the card. If I want to use punctuation I will, I use my phone not a computer.

[Armystrong7979]

So can anyone tell me if the card is real or not and how do I tell

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

So can anyone tell me if the card is real or not and how do I tell

You are an admitted scammer. Why do you think we would want to help you so fast? For all we know we will teach you how to be a better scammer. Have you considered that?

[Armystrong7979]

Did it one time omg you guys think I am a serial killer. I thought we've moved on, just asked but hey it's cool. I've made my apologies

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

Did it one time omg you guys think I am a serial killer. I thought we've moved on, just asked but hey it's cool. I've made my apologies

No, actually we haven't moved on. That comes on our terms, not yours. You would be the guilty party and we are the ones you tried to scam. It's not quite that easy.

[pencil1974]

I'll chime in. I've owned quite a few of these and this looks very fake. The paper doesn't look right along with 4 almost perfectly rounded corners. Just my two cents. If you want to know for sure just pay the $15-20 and send to SGC/PSA.

[Armystrong7979]

Oh my fn God this is a fn baseball forum not a fn legal website if you guys wanna keep on keeping them by all means go ahead if that's what helps you sleep at night I did it once grow up move on not my problem you guys have nothing else better to do than sit behind your computer at your moms house and sit here and try n tell me you guys never did anything wrong oh wait forgot I'm talking to a bunch of Jesus's who are perfect

[Armystrong7979]

Since all yall like going after people on eBay why don't you go after that person on eBay who is selling half of a lou Gehrig card starting at 149 for real

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

Since all yall like going after people on eBay why don't you go after that person on eBay who is selling half of a lou Gehrig card starting at 149 for real

We tend to go after the most obvious crooks first and then work up toward the plankton.

[Armystrong7979]

Well just telling Ya about that person on eBay selling half a Lou card there's your next case

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

Well just telling Ya about that person on eBay selling half a Lou card there's your next case

I looked at the "half" Gehrig card....it looks legit to me. Not sure why anyone would want a Gehrig card with his head cut off, but I'm fairly certain it is not a reprint.

[buymycards]

I just looked at my phone and it does have a period, a comma, and a question mark. Maybe you should upgrade your phone, or just quit being so lazy.

It seems like one common thread among the scammers trying to sell fake cards is their lack of punctuation and grammar. If I ever decide to sell a fake Ruth I will make sure I use spell check to avoid suspicion.

[Armystrong7979]

I have an iPhone 5 just don't need to punctuate for you guys sorry but your not family

[baseball tourist]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

I have an iPhone 5 just don't need to punctuate for you guys sorry but your not family

Saving the puncuation for family, are we? What a wonderful Christmas present for them!

[Armystrong7979]

Last time I checked we live in usa I will write however the f**ck I want to you yall don't like too godd**m bad I'm not here to write how yall want me too this isnt an English forum

[FirstYearCards]

And it begins...

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

Last time I checked we live in usa I will write however the f**ck I want to you yall don't like too godd**m bad I'm not here to write how yall want me too this isnt an English forum

Welcome to the board! You're off to a great start.

[baseball tourist]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

Last time I checked we live in usa I will write however the f**ck I want to you yall don't like too godd**m bad I'm not here to write how yall want me too this isnt an English forum

I'm from Canada. You can write anyway you want, but as for me and for most (if not all on this board), appearing to be mature, at least somewhat educated and possessing the basic people-skills (especially when one is asking for advice from others) would all be considered pluses. Best of luck with your approach though!

[Armystrong7979]

Hey I'm just doing this now because it's pissing people off and they keep biting on my hook not one person as asked me nicely to write a proper sentence with punctuation grammar etc if you take a step back see how fn stupid this is these people were giving me shit about me posting certain cards on eBay now they have nothing else better to do than bitch about F**ing grammar priceless I can do this forever I've spent 4 yrs in the army seen and delt with a lot more bs than this

[frankbmd]

A dead battery in that phone would be a blessing.

[baseball tourist]

The hole you are digging here will soon be so deep that we won't be able to hear your nonsense anymore.

"one time scammer" *shovel*; "thinks we should just move on, because he is sorry" *shovel*; "proud of piss-poor communication skills" *shovel*; "keeps being an ass because he can" *shovel*

[Armystrong7979]

See I can do this all day keep on keeping and so will I if yall would stop writing on this thread n shut the f** k up I'll stop but til then

[autocentral]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

Hey I'm just doing this now because it's pissing people off and they keep biting on my hook not one person as asked me nicely to write a proper sentence with punctuation grammar etc if you take a step back see how fn stupid this is these people were giving me shit about me posting certain cards on eBay now they have nothing else better to do than bitch about F**ing grammar priceless I can do this forever I've spent 4 yrs in the army seen and delt with a lot more bs than this

Thanks for your service but I think the site could do without a member like you. As entertaining as this thread is.

I have never had a problem with anyone on this site and you are off to the worst start on this site because no one likes fake stuff and scammers.

Is it really so hard to at least use a period at the end of a sentence?

-Nick

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Armystrong7979

See I can do this all day keep on keeping and so will I if yall would stop writing on this thread n shut the f** k up I'll stop but til then

Well, actually, if you keep up with your drivel you will be stopped.

[Armystrong7979]

See again point proving yall have nothing else better to do I'll keep on every time yall keep on and to take me down bring the whole military oh wait I just was in the military I can handle myself bring it