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View Poll Results: Which do you consider to be “the Wagner” of postcards? (excluding autos/Negro League)
1907 Seamless Steel Tubes Ty Cobb 18 10.65%
1908 Rose Co. Ty Cobb 19 11.24%
1908 Rose Co. Honus Wagner 10 5.92%
c1908 Greenville Joe Jackson 46 27.22%
c1909 Weiser Wonder Walter Johnson 17 10.06%
1915 RPPC Boston Red Sox w/ Ruth 40 23.67%
Other (please list) 19 11.24%
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Default “the Wagner” of postcards

Which do you consider to be “the Wagner” of postcards? (excluding autographs and Negro League)
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Interesting supposition! I do not seek out postcards...but I look forward to hearing some responses.
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You'd perhaps get more responses if there were linked images for those of us who haven't seen all the examples referenced -- I can imagine 3-4 of them w/o a second thought, but not so much on the others
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You'd perhaps get more responses if there were linked images for those of us who haven't seen all the examples referenced -- I can imagine 3-4 of them w/o a second thought, but not so much on the others
Make me work for it huh? Ok, images coming...
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Rose Co Chase
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Rose Co Chase
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1907 Seamless Steel Tubes Ty Cobb


1908 Rose Co. Ty Cobb


1908 Rose Co. Honus Wagner


c1908 Greenville Joe Jackson


c1909 Weiser Wonder Walter Johnson


1915 RPPC Boston Red Sox w/ Ruth

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Are you going for issued "sets" or do possibly unique RPPC count? I really like those early circa 1915-16 Ruths.
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That steel tube cobb is an incredible image. Intimidation!
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Are you going for issued "sets" or do possibly unique RPPC count? I really like those early circa 1915-16 Ruths.
Good question, was thinking sets or at least widely distributed, but whatever you feel qualifies.

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I don't know how widely distributed that Greenville Jackson postcard was, but that thing is amazing.
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My personal favorite is Joe D's 1903 PC of the New York Giants.

Unfortunately I couldn't find my scan.
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yes...that joe jackson postcard is amazing! i would surmise that most listed postcards are known to exist in numbers barely approaching double digits at best.

And that the "honus wagner" of postcards will vary from pc collector to pc collector depending on what they need.
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That's a good one too Steve...

(not Joe's but another copy...)

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The Babe, Shonen.

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The Babe, Shonen.
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I have long believed that Joe Jackson to be a fantasy piece and not authentic so not that one for sure!
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if the jj is not real I want my vote back!!!!
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I'll vote with an image of one of the candidates and another toughie
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My vote:

This Joe Jackson postcard.

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I voted for the Ruth w/the Red Sox pstcard. It still kinda surprises me how "cheap" the 1912 Jim Thorpe postcards that predate his M101-5 are. I know they are not bigger than the Ruth postcard, but I think Thorpe at the 1912 Olympics is an iconic postcard.

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I'll be in the minority, but a Bregstone Waddell, without hesitation, makes my top-5.
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I hear that. Wish it was a real photo postcard.
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Though I am very unfamiliar with this terrain, and probably influenced by my current reading choice, I had to go with 'The Weiser Wonder'!
(speaking of t-r-ains!)
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Why exclude the Negro Leagues? I understand excluding an autographed item but not the NL.

FWIW, I'd most like to own a 1915 Ruth RPPC.

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I'd be happy just to see a high res scan.
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Maybe a bit outside the question in context, but this one paralells the Wagner in a few ways. Withdrawn from sale, probably due to poor printing quality, but the other story is that McKinleys widow didn't like it. Only one box of 500 was shipped by mistake, to a company that operated garbage barges for NYC, so an iffy link to 52Topps High numbers too. All were printed with an address and info for the tugboat operator to fill out. Unaddressed ones were actually specimens that got out. Not quite as expensive, but still pretty pricy for a plain postcard. (Sorry for the long link)

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Holy $hit, that Duke PC is awesome, Adam.

Thank you for sharing.

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This Joe Jackson postcard.

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That's a great one too Tony! Interesting responses so far.

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selfish reasons, I don't collect them.
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Anyone have a scan of the 1908 Rose Company Tris Speaker? I've never seen one. That might top my list if you are only looking for ACC designated postcards.

Otherwise, I'd concur with the vote for the 1907 Team PC w/ Joe Jax!
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For me there is nothing that even comes close to the seamless steel tubes Cobb (my personal holy grail), but the 1910 Sepia Cobb/Wagner is easily my #2 and worth mentioning in this discussion.
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Or Novelty Cutlery Cobb- Wagner.
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Or Novelty Cutlery Cobb- Wagner.
Yes! The image is amazing, both sets did it justice for sure!
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Anyone have a scan of the 1908 Rose Company Tris Speaker? I've never seen one. That might top my list if you are only looking for ACC designated postcards.

Otherwise, I'd concur with the vote for the 1907 Team PC w/ Joe Jax!
Even though Tris Speaker has been on the checklist for years, I have never known anyone to have ever seen one. I believe that I have an image of every other HOFer except for him.

Then again, up until recently, I had only seen one Rose Walter Johnson in the last 25 year (Ron Mechine's, which seems to have mysteriously disappeared) and now two more have popped up in the last two months! Hopefully the same will happen with Speaker.

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I have long believed that Joe Jackson to be a fantasy piece and not authentic so not that one for sure!
?? It is postmarked from Greenville, SC in 1909...what makes you think this is a fantasy piece?
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im not familiar with any post cards, but after looking at the scans, id take the Jackson. If its real - and not a FP
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Like the idea for this thread, Jeff. Here's an old favorite from my collection, wish I still had it (especially given what it sold for at auction a few years ago, could get 4X that amount today)............
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If I recall correctly, the Jackson postcard came from a newspaper/magazine clipping or baseball guide.
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Hans Lobert.

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agree.....nice postcard but not in the top 1000 in the hobby, to me. This one is neat, I am biased, but probably too rare for it's own good and probably still wouldn't make the cut. It's pretty much the only MLB postcard I own as I don't collect them (you are welcome pc collectors).

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I'm not a big fan of the Greenville Jackson as it looks like it was cut out of a newspaper; also I can't rank a RPPC as a top one as they're just too varied and don't have the history of a regular postcard. That being said I WISH there was such a thing as a Wagner-type PC, especially since I own two of the ones on the list.

As someone who owns many rare Cobb PCs, I think my favorite two (which encompasses looks and rarity) are the Rose PC and this one:

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Jeff I love that one. I love cards that show players teeth!
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That Free Press PC of Cobb is beautiful, Jeff. Great image on that.
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I like the Pebble Beach Joe Di Maggio - like that it's signed (as all Pebble Beach PCs are). Picture from Old Cardboard website:

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Interesting, and great to see these wonderful postcards, but I don't get the analogy. IMO, there's not such thing as a "Wagner of postcards," since the circumstances of issue and collecting between T-206s and postcards are so different. To me it's like saying, "What's the Wagner of pennants, or pins, etc." There is no Wagner of those, or of postcards, either. But maybe this is just the contrarian in me.
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