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Old 07-11-2019, 08:54 PM
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Default N284 Buchner Gold Coin Checklist Add?

Hi. I've reviewed several of the published N284 Buchner Gold Coin checklists and can't find an entry for "Toole, Pitcher, Brooklyn". Is this card a checklist add or something different? Usual Gold Coin printed backside.

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Old 07-11-2019, 09:20 PM
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I worked on the set a few years ago & never seen this one
Looks in great shape too!
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Wow, that's incredible. Going to link here and add it to the checklist on my site. Great stuff.
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I don't think I can remember another new player added to this series since I have been in the hobby. Nice find.
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I'm a little leery, I've only owned a few, but it just doesn't look right.
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I do not like the looks of this card. Jmho But I have handled a few hundred gold coins over the years..
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Looks good to me. Congratulations Jeff, nice find.
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It looks washed out like a lot of the 48 Leaf reprints look. I'm not sure that's an authentic card, but it could mean there is one out there.
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It does look washed out or fake but that wouldn't make sense.
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Oh wait, the checklist I found has a notation on this card and this thread! Haha, never mind. Agree it would be weird to reprint an unknown card. Maybe it's just the photo.

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I think it is legit. Nice find, Jeff.

I think there are 5 different cards of Steve Toole in the Old Judge set featuring him with Brooklyn, KC, and Rochester.
Therefore since the N284 cards were also printed circa 1887, it's not unusual that Steve Toole was printed in this set.

For many years, the existence of an N284 Bill McClellan card was a mystery. In recent years, this card was confirmed.


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Brooklyn already has a card for "Pitcher" in the set "Porter". It is possible to have more than one card per position in this set . Toole would make that 2 pitchers from Brooklyn. I believe Indy has 2 pitchers , Boyle and Healy.
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Can we see a scan of the back? Maybe a better scan of the front?
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I was wrong. Backside is not printed. Advertising cut-out?

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I would be wary of a blank backed Buchner. Guess that still wouldn't explain why it exists, but perhaps it was a card that appeared on a poster but wasn't actually issued for one reason or another.
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Lots of blank backed Gold Coins out there
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Feeling pretty vindicated right about now. Of course the question remains what is it?
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Lots of blank backed Gold Coins out there
Scraps or skinned, not legit. At least as far as I am aware.
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Bummer - given the various N284 advertising posters that were printed, that wouldn't be surprising. Many of the poster cards have the traditional backs with ads but there have been references to blank-backed ones, too. Guessing it's one of those for a card that was not issued.
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Just ran a search for them on the site and found this old thread. Seems there are a good number of these out there, though I've not seen any in person.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=88940
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Sure that could be it.... send it in to a TPG and see what they say...maybe they could restore the back to it's original Reprint/ fantasy lettering.
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A few more details. Toole card is about 1/8" taller than a printed back card. Toole card is printed on card stock, however it is about 50% of the card stock weight (thickness). Definitely a period piece. So what is it? Are there other examples of players used for advertising that did not get printed as a checklist card? Any idea of value as it stands?

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Lots of blank backed Gold Coins out there
I don't know of any blank backed Buchners that were actually issued as cards. The only ones I've ever seen are cut from posters. Given that this card is unknown, I would have a hard time believing it was issued on anything other than a poster, and given the way the front looks, I'm still not sure about that either.

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Definitely a period piece???? Lol
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