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Old 05-14-2008, 07:27 PM
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

I don't chime in on the PSA bashing threads because of what momma always told me...

However I do take note and because of PSA's reputation, cards like this one really scare the crap out of me..

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If it were truly undergraded, why doesn't the seller simply crack and resubmit it or send to SGC. 



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Old 05-14-2008, 07:47 PM
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Posted By: Anonymous

it could be neither. It could be fairly graded and not trimmed.

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Old 05-15-2008, 03:42 AM
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Of course it could be valid and likely is.  I just get spooked when I see such cards. I wonder how much of a ding PSA sellers get because of this poor rep, especially in the pre-war market.

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Old 05-15-2008, 06:35 AM
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Posted By: Steve

Could have a small wrinkle.


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Posted By: Eric Brehm

I think Steve is probably right. In my experience, cards graded EX 5 that appear sharp enough at arm's length for a higher grade have some small flaw that is difficult to detect, such as a small wrinkle or bit of paper loss. As the seller points out, the centering isn't bad enough, in and of itself, to preclude a NM rating. Seeing a larger scan of the card might help.

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Posted By: T206Collector

...one has to consider with a scan such as this is how bright the scan is. The Cobb is a bit washed out because of the brightness of the scan. This kind of scan will usually hide imperfections. For example, a scan that is too bright might hide a wrinkle since the way most of us can see a wrinkle is because of how the light reflects over the surface of the card -- the reflection is broken up by the wrinkle. A really bright scan would conceal that, as well as other flaws like toning and staining and paper loss.

When I buy mine online, I prefer my PSA 5/SGC 60s to have a bit of visible corner wear because I prefer that to the sharp cornered cards with minor wrinkles.



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Posted By: Red

A lot of the sellers giving away undergraded cards have Chrematophobia. If they submit the card for the upgrade it will only make their problem worse.

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Hard to tell from the scan, but nothing problematic immediately jumps out at me. I agree with Eric. If the corners are as sharp as they seem, there is probably some other minor imperfection.
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