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Old 06-13-2016, 07:07 PM
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It is a great "movie" but unfortunately nowhere close to historically accurate. That bothers me when something is portrayed as historical and is almost completely fictional. I talked to Paul Blair and Clete Boyer about the movie and both guys thought it was terrible because it was so far off of reality. In fact, Boyer was downright mad by the time he got done telling me all the things he didn't like about it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I've always said that *61 was not very accurate. In fact even the title is inaccurate. There was NEVER an asterisk, and I would like to know how this myth ever started.

But anywho, here is my list of ten movies that, while not completely obscure and maybe only shown one time, are not widely known or frequently shown:

Water (From India directed by Deepa Mehta)
One-Two-Three
Above Suspicion
The Boys in Company C
Head
The Swimmer
Stage Door
The Palm Beach Story
You Can't Take it With You
Hell's Angels
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Old 06-14-2016, 03:32 AM
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Firstly, I don't think the movie was implying that there had, indeed, been an asterisk in the record books. More, I think the title is a nod to the debate that raged about how the record should be handled. For nearly fifty years, there were two entries in the official Major League record book for home runs in a single season: one listing Babe Ruth's 60 in 154 games in 1927, and a second entry listing Roger Maris' 61 in 162 games in 1961.

As to the genesis of the myth, you can thank the Commissioner of Baseball at the time, Ford Frick:

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'Any player who has hit more than 60 home runs during his club's first 154 games would be recognized as having established a new record. However, if the player does not hit more than 60 until after this club has played 154 games, there would have to be some distinctive mark on the record books to show that Babe Ruth's record was set under a 154-game schedule.'"
This was a statement of opinion. The "distinctive mark" never appeared in the record books, but it's easy to understand why people might assume it had. This happens all the time. Popular culture would have you believe the line, "play it again, Sam" came from Casablanca, that the correct line from All About Eve was "buckle up, its going to be a bumpy ride", or that Cary Grant famously quipped "Judy, Judy, Judy".

Once something is entered into the popular lexicon, accurate, completely made up, or not, there it will stay.


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Thank you, thank you, thank you! I've always said that *61 was not very accurate. In fact even the title is inaccurate. There was NEVER an asterisk, and I would like to know how this myth ever started.
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Old 08-20-2016, 02:29 PM
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.."The Bad Lieutenant;Port Of Call "-Cage should be dipped in bronze for his performance

..."Breaking Away"---brilliant 'little' movie

..."Oh, What A lovely War" -so overlooked on this side of the pond; shame , that.

.."Hard Candy"--ummm---maybe not for everyone but a good flick

.."The Boy With Green Hair"---will stay with you

.."The Sergeant"---- Whew , Rod Steiger...whew

.."The Kiss Of The Spider Woman"--best cast EVER

..''The Dogs Of War"----Walken --wow,just "wow"

.."Topper"--the old original black and white one; look at Cary Grant's car....
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ten movies I love many of you have never seen?



Dead Man - incredible black and white photography and philosophical storyline

Ikiru- everyone knows seven samurai and yojimbo, but this might be Kurosawa's best film

Ex-Machina- maybe the best film of last year and one of the most original scifi films in a long time

Juggernaut- 1970's Richard Harris stars in this great thriller about bombs aboard an ocean liner

Time Bandits- Terry Gilliam at the top of his game making odd, yet fun films

Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone- total 80's space movie cheese, yet strangely delicious and satisfying cheese

Bubba Ho-Tep-an old Elvis and JFK fight an ancient mummy sucking the souls of the members of their retirement home. yep (see it for Bruce Campbell as Elvis and Ossie Davis as JFK)

Beyond the Black Rainbow- it takes me back to those weird psychedelic films of the late 60's early 70's where you don't really know what's going on but the mix of film and music are hypnotic

Colossus: The Forbin Project- The first "computer takes over the world" movie, really great hard sci-fi that obviously influenced The Terminator

Session 9 - very spooky movie from around 20 years back that somehow pulls off creepy without slamming weird visuals or gore at you every 5 seconds
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ten movies I love many of you have never seen?



Dead Man - incredible black and white photography and philosophical storyline

Ikiru- everyone knows seven samurai and yojimbo, but this might be Kurosawa's best film

Ex-Machina- maybe the best film of last year and one of the most original scifi films in a long time

Juggernaut- 1970's Richard Harris stars in this great thriller about bombs aboard an ocean liner

Time Bandits- Terry Gilliam at the top of his game making odd, yet fun films

Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone- total 80's space movie cheese, yet strangely delicious and satisfying cheese

Bubba Ho-Tep-an old Elvis and JFK fight an ancient mummy sucking the souls of the members of their retirement home. yep (see it for Bruce Campbell as Elvis and Ossie Davis as JFK)

Beyond the Black Rainbow- it takes me back to those weird psychedelic films of the late 60's early 70's where you don't really know what's going on but the mix of film and music are hypnotic

Colossus: The Forbin Project- The first "computer takes over the world" movie, really great hard sci-fi that obviously influenced The Terminator

Session 9 - very spooky movie from around 20 years back that somehow pulls off creepy without slamming weird visuals or gore at you every 5 seconds


I marked the three I have seen in BOLD:

Dead Man is awesome (Iggy Pop in a dress!)

Colossus: The Forbin Project - I saw it again a few years ago...and it was still effective and enjoyable - truly before it's time.

Time Bandits - I loved it, but have not seen it in years...sometimes when I wait too long, my individual taste has changed and I don't enjoy it as much...but, this IS Terry Gilliam - so I'll try.
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Old 08-20-2016, 11:12 PM
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Some other favorites:

On the Waterfront-Kazan and Brando. Nothing more need be said.
Rififi-the twenty + minute heist is one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history.
Cat on a Hot Tin Roof-Newman, Taylor and Ives are as formidable a threesome as you'll see in the 50s.
Brooklyn-Saoirse Ronan is a revelation, a fantastic actress with a bright future; the story is simple, yet gripping.
Persona-another masterwork from Ingmar Bergman, and one of my personal favorites.
Libeled Lady-by this point in her career, Jean Harlow's comedic sense is virtually unparalleled (save for Carole Lombard). A wonderful screwball comedy with a great cast, and Harlow is absolutely magnetic.
Double Indemnity-if somebody held a gun to my head, and asked me to pick a favorite noir film, I'd have a hard time not picking this gem. MacMurray and Robinson are great, but this is Barbara Stanwyck's film. She is the quintessence of the femme fatale. Maybe the greatest performance of, perhaps, Hollywood's most versatile actresses.
Tokyo Story-the film that served as my introduction to Yasujirô Ozu. Some sixty years after it was shot, Ozu's wonderful drama about the post WWII family dynamic still casts a huge shadow. A must see for every film enthusiast. Just beautifully done.

And, my favorite two films of the new millennium...

Mulholland Drive-David Lynch's magnum opus. A veritable textbook on how non-linear timelines can be handled in film. See it once, and you'll think about it for weeks. Naomi Watts and Laura Harring are wonderful together. Silencio! No hay banda!
Lost in Translation-Sofia Coppola hits every note perfectly. Part love story, part homage to Tokyo. I never get tired of this film, no matter how many times I watch it. Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson have great chemistry together.
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Mulholland Drive-David Lynch's magnum opus. A veritable textbook on how non-linear timelines can be handled in film. See it once, and you'll think about it for weeks. Naomi Watts and Laura Harring are wonderful together.

Silencio! No hay banda!


Bill- I never got the 'threesome' bug or even understood how entertaining witnessing something like 'them' together...until I saw that!

I'm quite sure I looked like Marty Feldman when I watched.
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