Yellow Brown S.C. 460 f. #30 Printer's Scrap- sister sheet/ stain correlation?

[mrvster]

Hello All!

As you know I'm obsessed with T206 Printer's scraps.....the "alternative" T206....so rare and beautiful, even the most beat up examples become "more beautiful" ironically......

Anyway, thanks to fellow board members in a trade, I acquired another beauty... A T206 Mcintyre Yellow/brown scrap ....actually, the only possible FRONT/BACK combo 1 of 1!!!..... MCINTYRE is NOT possible with the FACT #30 SWEET CAP BACK series 460....THIS one does because it missed the OVERSTRIKE and was a never complete ........ I will post in a minute....

nevermind being so rare, there are a few sweet cap y/b F. #30's scraps out there with clean examples of the back and front and not stained on the front....then there are a few that are beat up a little, and have a type of "coffee" stain" or "soda" stain on front.....some of these scraps with the "stain" and beat up a little have penciled in on the back "25" and "30"....

the story / rumor is a dealer had some of these y/b scraps and was selling them in the 70's .....he had marked them with the prices on the backs "25" and "30" "dollars".......the stained fronts are a mystery.....


my theory- a few (2 or 3) printer scrap sheets sc f. #30 SURVIVED....one sheet was "peeled" off the floor where some spilled a cup of jo on them/ for garbage.....???

I guess we will never know.....


I'm posting a link of a current ebay auction with a "sister Stained SC f. #30 460 y/b)

I also have a street with the similar stain/damaged backs....


PLEASE POST IF YOU OWN ONE!!! THEY WERE ALL SISTER CARDS RECEIVING THE DAMAGE AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SHEET....


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-To...item1c3c4edab9

[mrvster]

street

the downey in the link I posted is from the same sheet....another super rare card...

[mrvster]

just to show the dramatic difference

[mrvster]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-To...item1c3c4edab9

[Tobacco&Gum]

Congrats JV!

[MVSNYC]

Johnny, the guy who gave that one up, must've got a killer card in return.

Here's my lone y/b now. Has the stain AND the "25" on the back.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by mrvster

....one sheet was "peeled" off the floor where some spilled a cup of jo on them/ for garbage.....???

I guess we will never know.....

Or maybe the guys in the factory used a "discarded sheet" as sort of a giant coaster on their desk/workbench??? It could have been there for long enough that someone eventually decided to take it home as a memento of their time working at the factory!!

Probably no basis in fact, but that's the story I'd go with. It sounds much more romantic than the sheet being picked out of the trash

[mrvster]

Mike!!
I have the "clean" version of Sweeney off the second sheet

there are "clean" sc 460 f. #30's and these "stained" peeled versions


Steve,
sounds great! a little more romantic

[atx840]

I believe one sheet of 34 were saved, this is a regularly seen group that are always together in the 460 series backs
Out of the group of 34, 33 have been found as a y/b, most with 2-3 known examples which fits the 3-4 stacked card theory.

[mrvster]

Looks like your Davis on the right has the "stained" front....SHOW THE BACK!!

and, btw.....lets find that last 34 th card

[mrvster]

some more "stained" front / back damaged yellow brown sweet cap 460 f. #30's....

[atx840]

We do know Chance & Cobb were beside each other and Reulbach and Konetchy are neighbours

[mrvster]

has me thinking....looking at the collage, you can almost pick out which ones were in the "fire" with my matty leading the way!

[atx840]

Several have been trimmed, tough to align them based on cuts but the creases might connect. I think some were glued in a book, hence the stains and damaged backs and the others are mostly in VG/EX condition.

[wonkaticket]

I guess I have the less wanted clean ones.

[MVSNYC]

John- too new looking.

(Very nice cards)

[atx840]

They are indeed yellow, brown, black and red. The Cobb y/b has a very bold red background.