Could be the first 1955 Mascot Dog Food Cards of Mantle and Berra. Any Info?

[Pbruderer]

I read some previous post about these 2 cards that went up for auction and sold. I have a complete collection from mascot dog food with 10 cards in mint condition with geo specs toporcler, don newcombe, Eddie Matthews, Gil Hodges, Monte Irvin, yogi Berra, Mickey mantle, Robin Roberts, al flip Rosen, Ed lipstick. Need some help on how to authenticate and possibly value. I noticed the Mickey mantle sold with Wheatland auction for $23k. I have the whole collection

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Pbruderer

I read some previous post about these 2 cards that went up for auction and sold. I have a complete collection from mascot dog food with 10 cards in mint condition with geo specs toporcler, don newcombe, Eddie Matthews, Gil Hodges, Monte Irvin, yogi Berra, Mickey mantle, Robin Roberts, al flip Rosen, Ed lipstick. Need some help on how to authenticate and possibly value. I noticed the Mickey mantle sold with Wheatland auction for $23k. I have the whole collection

Authenticating would be easy enough. If you want them graded, You could go the beckett route though I be hesitant to send anything through the Postal Service at the moment. For a Collection like yours, perhaps wait until one of the Shows to happen again and tart going through the grading process there.

You could also post scans of the cards on here, if you want the board members to take a look at them. I'm completely out of my element for something like this, but there are very knowledgeable people on this forum. Hope that helps.

[bigfanNY]

It should be easy to get them authenticated if you have 10 of them. Do the Roberts Mantle and Berra all match up with the 3 known examples? If they do then I would think that PSA would be your best shot at getting top dollar. Please I know it is frustrating to post pictures on this site the first time so if you email me the pictures front and back I can post them for you.

[bswhiten]

WOW...please post pics.

[cannonballsun]

I also would love to see the pics.

[swarmee]

So the known checklist and known count currently is (alpha by last name):
1: Yogi Berra (2) - Set Size: 8
2: Gil Hodges (1) - new name
3: Monte Irvin (1)
4: Ed Lopat (1)
5: Mickey Mantle (2) - Set Size: 11
6: Eddie Mathews (2)
7: Don Newcombe (1) - new name
8: Robin Roberts (2) - Set Size: 8
9: Al Rosen (1)
10: Specs Toporcer (1)
11: UNKNOWN - Presumably Bucky Harris (Mgr)

Originally there were 8 according to the back of the Robin Roberts card in the standard catalog. Do all of your cards mention 11 in the set on the back? If the Robin Roberts in your collection mentions 11 cards, then it's also a variation to the original known card. Once the 11th card is found and authenticated, PSA will likely allow for this to be graded by their company.

I disagree with the poster from a few years ago that the card is so rare that condition wouldn't matter much. I think that if you have an authentic Mantle in "mint" condition (like EX-MT or better), you could put the card in a much more active auction (REA, Heritage, Goldin, etc) and easily get over $100K. You have the benefit of finding the second one, so now the first one has kind of proved the authenticity to the market. If a 2009 Mike Trout is about to sell for $3 million or so, a 7-figure price on a super-rare high grade Mantle wouldn't shock me.

You can load the pictures on a site like Facebook (if you have an account), then use the image icon (mountain with yellow sky) above the text box to format your embedded image in the post, or just post the links (URLs) and people can embed the images for you.

Add: Hodges and Newcombe, along with Mantle, look to be the three cards added to the original 8 (known from the article posted in Post #52).

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by Pbruderer

I read some previous post about these 2 cards that went up for auction and sold. I have a complete collection from mascot dog food with 10 cards in mint condition with geo specs toporcler, don newcombe, Eddie Matthews, Gil Hodges, Monte Irvin, yogi Berra, Mickey mantle, Robin Roberts, al flip Rosen, Ed lipstick. Need some help on how to authenticate and possibly value. I noticed the Mickey mantle sold with Wheatland auction for $23k. I have the whole collection

I would really like to see photos or scans of the fronts and backs of the cards if you have them. I wonder if you have a complete set since the backs differ in the number of "post card photos" offered. Also, do you have a "mixed" set of cards. Do some say "8 post card photos" on the back, and some say "11 post card photos"? Either way, you would certainly be adding greatly to the checklist of known card examples in the set.

[chuckw]

Bucky Harris is the 11th card in the set. I have scans of the 11 cards, front and back from my research of these cards over the past couple of years since I found and sold the Mantle and Berra. I am actually in the process of writing a story on the set, with photos, and should have it completed in the next 2 weeks. I have photos of the only known complete set of (11) from the original owner who remembered buying mascot dog food in the early 1950s - these are really rare items (I have people calling me frequently to see if any are coming up for sale soon). Three of the card backs mention 11 postcard redemptions in the give-away (Mantle, Newcombe, and Hodges) and the rest mention 8 cards in the post card redemption. There are (11) cards in the baseball card set and the list presented here is accurate. I think they likely made 8 cards in the first year, then added the other 3 (Mantle, Newcombe, Hodges) in the second year. If anyone has more information on Mascot dog food, the company, or these cards or redemption program please let me know. It's been fun researching these cards over the past couple of years to try to piece together more information!

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by chuckw

Bucky Harris is the 11th card in the set. I have scans of the 11 cards, front and back from my research of these cards over the past couple of years since I found and sold the Mantle and Berra. I am actually in the process of writing a story on the set, with photos, and should have it completed in the next 2 weeks. I have photos of the only known complete set of (11) from the original owner who remembered buying mascot dog food in the early 1950s - these are really rare items (I have people calling me frequently to see if any are coming up for sale soon). Three of the card backs mention 11 postcard redemptions in the give-away (Mantle, Newcombe, and Hodges) and the rest mention 8 cards in the post card redemption. There are (11) cards in the baseball card set and the list presented here is accurate. I think they likely made 8 cards in the first year, then added the other 3 (Mantle, Newcombe, Hodges) in the second year. If anyone has more information on Mascot dog food, the company, or these cards or redemption program please let me know. It's been fun researching these cards over the past couple of years to try to piece together more information!

Ah, so you've been holding out on us... ;-) Are you working with pbruderer? Or are you saying you're aware of a second set of 11? If that's the case, we've gone from one known copy in 2016 to about 25 known only four years later.

[chuckw]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Ah, so you've been holding out on us... ;-) Are you working with pbruderer? Or are you saying you're aware of a second set of 11? If that's the case, we've gone from one known copy in 2016 to about 25 known only four years later.

Not really holding out! I was looking forward to announcing it on here and then helping to see if all three grading companies will grade them - that was part of my effort to research them. It appears there are the following known examples to surface from the entire set (24?):
- (1) the original Robin Roberts in the old price guide;
- (2) Mantle and Berra that sold via our auction at Wheatland;
- 11 that I discovered in one collection;
- 10 from pbruderer?
- am I missing any?

[sflayank]

Has anyone gotten an answer from the original poster to email

[sflayank]

as I've always believed eventually everything shows up
How long did it take for cleveland indians central bank cards
Cleveland Indians prize frankies?
Bazooka 1960 box set
Mascot dog food
30 years for a red correct mantle armour and then 10
Still finding new pros pizza
Took me 20 years for sal yvars 54 hunterS
60 years to see the missing dice gsmes
Still haven't seen 1/2 set of opc tattoos...they exist but where are they
Only 1 Venezuelan tatoo...they must exist..where are they
Still haven't seen 3/4 of the felin franks
Still haven't seen 3/4 of national tea
How many jerry Jonas have u seen?
50 years to see cheri baas cola
50 years for the plaks
Somewhere someone has these cards just a matter of when and where they turn up

[mrmopar]

I ended up tracking down Jerry Jonas and had a nice phone conversation with him. He told me what he could recall about the sets. I had been fascinated by the set because I saw it listed in a price guide when I was younger and just starting to collect. Plus it had a Koufax, and the Dodgers were my team. I figured I would never find any, but ended up hitting the jackpot.

I got my sheet and a cut up set from the same person, a former executive with a MLB team who was employed around that time. He was a big card collector, so no surprise that he ended up with the sets. I also ended up with the folder and paperwork from the same man later on, that I featured in my blog about the issue.

https://1978theyearitallbegan.blogsp...ns-update.html

Here is the follow up article I wrote after speaking with Jonas directly.

https://1978theyearitallbegan.blogsp...entations.html

Originally Posted by sflayank

as I've always believed eventually everything shows up
How long did it take for cleveland indians central bank cards
Cleveland Indians prize frankies?
Bazooka 1960 box set
Mascot dog food
30 years for a red correct mantle armour and then 10
Still finding new pros pizza
Took me 20 years for sal yvars 54 hunterS
60 years to see the missing dice gsmes
Still haven't seen 1/2 set of opc tattoos...they exist but where are they
Only 1 Venezuelan tatoo...they must exist..where are they
Still haven't seen 3/4 of the felin franks
Still haven't seen 3/4 of national tea
How many jerry Jonas have u seen?
50 years to see cheri baas cola
50 years for the plaks
Somewhere someone has these cards just a matter of when and where they turn up

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by chuckw

Bucky Harris is the 11th card in the set. I have scans of the 11 cards, front and back from my research of these cards over the past couple of years since I found and sold the Mantle and Berra. I am actually in the process of writing a story on the set, with photos, and should have it completed in the next 2 weeks. I have photos of the only known complete set of (11) from the original owner who remembered buying mascot dog food in the early 1950s - these are really rare items (I have people calling me frequently to see if any are coming up for sale soon). Three of the card backs mention 11 postcard redemptions in the give-away (Mantle, Newcombe, and Hodges) and the rest mention 8 cards in the post card redemption. There are (11) cards in the baseball card set and the list presented here is accurate. I think they likely made 8 cards in the first year, then added the other 3 (Mantle, Newcombe, Hodges) in the second year. If anyone has more information on Mascot dog food, the company, or these cards or redemption program please let me know. It's been fun researching these cards over the past couple of years to try to piece together more information!

I look forward to reading your followup story about the set.

[sflayank]

pbruderer....
Doesn't respond to pm or emails
Could be fake

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by sflayank

pbruderer....
Doesn't respond to pm or emails
Could be fake

..most of the East has no electric power,,,,patience this week , eh ?---and I'll be down to see you right after Thanksgiving , virus be damned...

..

[sflayank]

possibly....but I'm guessing he has a phone which has email, internet etc