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Posted By: Richard Simon
SCD Trade Fax has a story today about the Quad Card controversy. |
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Posted By: William Heitman
20 years of unmatched excellence in spoiling the market. |
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Posted By: Brett
what percentage of UD signature cuts do you feel are fake ? |
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Posted By: Anonymous
As a collector of high end autos I am troubled by this story. I wonder how deep this problem runs? It seems like cut autos from checks are a better bet, however they are harder and harder to find due to most sitting in private collections. |
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Posted By: DJ
I think the percentage of "suspect" signed Upper Deck cards are rather low, probably a couple of percentages in comparison to all that is out there. |
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Posted By: Richard Simon
It is impossible to say to any accurate degree how many UD autographed cards are questionable. |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
but most I've seen have been good. The Connie Mack is the absolute most ridiculous one though. Overall, I just hate the whole move to cut up every friggin (sorry, Tbob) artifact and stick it on a card. No problems with a Ken Griffey Jr. jersey as he can change them 10 times a game but they cut up a hundred Walter Johnson checks one time to make these cut cards. JUST RIDICULOUS. Guess that makes the rest of our stuff more valuable but I don't know.......I know they've had similar problems with 'game used' bats and other items they've sliced and diced to put on cards. In the furor to get the next biggest thing out there, they've gotten close to some people who have obviously led them astray.......... |
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Posted By: Richard Simon
I have seen a handful of good ones, but we don't know the extent of this problem. Thousands of cards have been made, I have only seen a handful of good ones and a handful of bad ones. |
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Posted By: Richard Simon
I have been informed, hopefully correctly, that there will be a story about the UD controversy in the New York Daily News this Sunday Feb 19. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Doesn't surprise me that it is O'Keefe writing it as he done a number articles exposing the seedy side of the hobby. |
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Posted By: Richard Simon
Yes O' Keefe has written several stories about the hobby. All very accurate and unfortunately true. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I cannot say much about his other articles, but I know that his article about the DiMaggio streak bat had a lot of misinformation and agenda spinning going on it. |
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Posted By: Daniel Bretta
You got that right Jay. |
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Posted By: Richard Simon
O'Keefe wrote an excellent story on the theft of presidential signed baseballs and other autographed items from the Hall of Fame. |
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Posted By: Anson
Money corrupts. I hate to say it, but nothing we collect seems to be exempt from it. Reprints, forgeries, alterations, all in the name of the grand dollar. Is anyone else feeling overparanoid about buying things these days? |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I was parnoid back in the late 80s. They were rebuilding corners on Goudeys with pulp from other Goudeys, creating realistic looking fake jerseys that fooled many experts, etc. I can only imagine how much more sophisticated they have become. I bought game worn jerseys and bats in the 80s, but I wouldn't touch them today knowing what I know. As was proven being part of the DiMaggio bat investigation, buying any piece of game used equipment is a leap of faith unless you get the piece directly from the hand of the player, not his agent. |
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