Should I, or another moderator, bid in the Net54baseball.com auctions?

[Rich Klein]

Then everyone -- including Lee Behrens on Jay's material and vice versa should be able to bid.

This is as close to old school auctions of the 1980's as we will see

Regards
Rich

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

This is as close to old school auctions of the 1980's as we will see

Old school auctions were like a black hole - you didn't know who else was bidding, how much they bid, who won, and sometimes not even what the winning bid was. This is almost the opposite of that, other then the similarity that it's run by individual collectors instead of an auction house.

[Rich Klein]

I meant the public auctions of the 1980's; usually held in an hotel or as part of a show.

My bad for not making that clear

Rich

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

I meant the public auctions of the 1980's; usually held in an hotel or as part of a show.

Ahh - I was thinking older school - from the 70's

[Leon]

I think what Rich was really meaning is that these auctions are actually fun. From reading hundreds of old trade rags I totally agree with you though on how there used to be time lapses and a big black hole in information pertaining to auctions. These are in fact opposite in that respect. These are totally transparent. I like how:

1. I am not involved in any rules. (except my own auctions)
2. So far everyone is having total transparency (can't get any better imo)
3. So far there haven't been any big issues.

I am glad our members thought of this idea. Thanks to all who are participating. I wonder if that section will out grow the others?

[Rich Klein]

That is exactly what I meant. Believe it or not; the public auctions of the 1980's were a lot of fun to attend. And these auctions are the closest thing to those events.

Geez; you'd think I'd stop for a second sometimes

Rich

[Rich Klein]

I concur that getting these auctions up and going is a fine idea. Most of us have no way of really dealing with the "non major auction material" and this allows another outlet. And we got up quickly as well. I hope that any further advances when needed to this board come as quickly

Rich

[calvindog]

If Bill Mastro can bid on Mastro auctions, why can't you bid on Net 54 auctions? It's not like you know the ceiling bids, right?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

If Bill Mastro can bid on Mastro auctions, why can't you bid on Net 54 auctions? It's not like you know the ceiling bids, right?

I had a friendly debate with a board member last night about this very subject. He is not affiliated with any auction house at all but is a very passionate collector for the last 35 yrs. He sees no issue with auction company employees bidding in their own auctions. I have never thought that was a good idea, personally. Ceiling bids? Unless I am a mind reader I can't see me knowing anymore than anyone else...

Even in B and L Auctions Scott and I made a rule from day one that we can't see any up to bids and we can't bid in our own auctions. Of course every auction company will do what is best for them and we feel this is the best route for us...

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

He sees no issue with auction company employees bidding in their own auctions. Ceiling bids? Unless I am a mind reader I can't see me knowing anymore than anyone else....

What if you don't need to be a mind reader to see ceiling bids? Just have eyes that work?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

What if you don't need to be a mind reader to see ceiling bids? Just have eyes that work?

I was talking about Net54baseball.com auctions. Where are my eyes supposed to look?

[calvindog]

Exactly, Leon. That's why it's ok for you to bid on Net 54 auctions and not ok for other auctioneers to bid on their auctions.

[glynparson]

Absolutely should be allowed to bid.