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Old 07-19-2006, 11:28 PM
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Posted By: Lee Behrens

After our great thread about the EPDG back, I got to thinking that I do not think I have ever seen a tougher T206 card in an American beauty back.

I will use the toughness ranks on Readers T206 book with possible AB backs. Here are the players I would be interested in whether anyone has AB backs.

Elberfeld, Wash.
Smith, Chic. & Boston, I have a Cycle 460 and Pied 460, fact 42
Dahlen, Brooklyn
Joe Doyle
Brown, Wash. (why is this card so short?)
Kleinow, Boston
O'Neil (What makes him so tough?)
Adkins
Lundgren, KC
Rhoades, arm extended
Smith, white cap
Nichols, Bat
Needham

I have 16 AB backs but with Leifeld batting being the highest raking at 101 on Scot's list.

Edited to eliminate cards that were not possible in AB backs.


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Old 07-19-2006, 11:51 PM
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Posted By: barry arnold

Great idea for a thread, Lee!

I do have an elberfield washington with a beauty 350 no frame, but it's the fielding.
i bet you're after the portrait.
no AB for the rest of those you mention.
Since you mention the Cycle and pied 42 on the list of cards, i should note that the Lundgren KC I have is Carolina
Brights. Hope this helps.

all the best,

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Old 07-20-2006, 05:31 AM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

LEE

Currently, I have about 600+ T206's. These are the Am. Bty backs I have....

Devore...............AB 460

Leach (w/cap).....AB 460

Overall (sunset)....AB 350

Quillen................AB 350 (frame)

Wheat................AB 460


LEE....Doyle (which ?) and Schulte (front) are not available with Am Bty backs.

T-Rex Ted

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Old 07-20-2006, 08:01 AM
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Posted By: joe brennan

127 t206's 1 American Beauty back.

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Old 07-20-2006, 08:38 AM
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Posted By: Mike (18colt)

Lee:

I have Adkins of Baltimore with an AB 350 back with frame. I have 10 other AB backs out of 514 total T206's I possess.

I sure do enjoy these T-206 threads. Thanks.

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Old 07-20-2006, 09:51 AM
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Posted By: leon

T206 Amer.Beauty Schlei 460 subjects
T206 Amer.Beauty Nichols 350 Subjects
T206 Amer.Beauty Strang 350 Sub.-ornate borders

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Old 07-20-2006, 10:46 AM
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Posted By: B.C.Daniels

http://www.psacard.com/set%5Fregistry/display_cards.chtml?rsetid=46491&alltime=yes&requesttimeout=9999&rank=none&tied=0

I have 30 in SGC holders I will try to come back and list here Lee.

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Posted By: Sean

I have 24 T206 cards - 1 - AB 350 w/Frame - Maloney

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Old 07-20-2006, 11:16 AM
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Posted By: Bill

Out of the 550 T206's, these are the ones I have with American Beauty backs:

American Beauty 350 with Frame
Adkins
Bresnahan (With Bat)
Downs
Graham (St. Louis)
Hoffman (St. Louis)
Kruger
Smith (Buffalo)
Young, Irv

American Beauty 350 with No Frame
Baker
Burch (Fielding)
Conroy (With Bat)
Downey (Batting)
Elberfeld (Washington, Fielding)
Leifield (Batting)
Magee (With Bat)
McQuillan (With Bat)
Mullin (With Bat)
Nichols (Batting)
Pelty (Vertical)
Pfeister (Throwing)
Reulbach (No Glove Showing)
Seymour (Throwing)
Stahl (Glove Shows)
Steinfeldt (With Bat)
Street (Catching)
Sweeney (Fielding)
Wilhelm (Batting)
Willetts
Wiltse (Pitching)

American Beauty 460
Ford
Gandil
Geyer

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Old 07-20-2006, 11:31 AM
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Posted By: Lee Behrens

From the early data it appears that the AB's did not start until the 350 only series. A quick scan thru Scots list and I did not find any cards that were in the 150 only series.

The Nichols is at 85 in the ranking and the toughest so far.

Lee

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Posted By: rob


ot f 260ish, I have 3:

Bradley, bat - AB 460
Lake, STL - AB 460
Wiltse, pitching - AB 350 no frame

rob

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Old 07-20-2006, 12:10 PM
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Posted By: Paul Stratton

Jennings(hia) 350 no frame
Warhop 350 no frame

None on SReaders top 20 or so that you listed. I never bought them because I always thought they were trimmed.

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Posted By: Drew

I have seven American Beauty T206 cards.

Abbaticchio Blue Sleeves (460)
Howell with hat (460)
Laporte
Mitchell
Oakes
Reulback throwing (no frame)
Starr



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Old 07-20-2006, 12:40 PM
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Posted By: RayB

Another great thread. Should be interesting who holds the card of the rarest Reader ranking out of respondants here.

I have:

3 out of 180 or so.

Burke PSA 3 AB 350
Egan PSA 3 AB 350
Lattimore PSA 1 AB 350

Anybody up to a running tabulature of the responses with rarity index?

This thread should keep me reading for a good while.
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Posted By: peter ullman

lee...I have 4 ab's...they are:

Lattimore-350 w frame
Leifield batting 460 no frame(do any 460's have frame?)
Slagle 350 w/frame
Wilhelm 350 no frame

pete in mn

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Posted By: Steve M.

Davidson
Gaspar
Wilson
Raymond

All AB350

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Old 07-20-2006, 07:26 PM
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Posted By: Scott T

I have three out of 480.

(All AB 350 with frame)

Jake Atz
Bill Graham
Bill Hallman


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Old 07-20-2006, 08:58 PM
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Posted By: Craig D

I have 99 different American Beauty backs. Hard to list them all. Of the tough ones mentioned at the top of the thread, I have:

Nichols w/bat - 350 no frame
O'Neil - 350 w/frame.

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Posted By: peter ullman

so it seems the ab 460's are approximately 4-5 times tougher than the 350's. I've changed my mind, my 2 favorite backs are hindu red and am beauty.

pete in mn


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Old 07-21-2006, 01:19 PM
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Posted By: Lee Behrens

The highest on the ranking so far is 2 O'Neills, and 2 Nichols, nothing so far from the really tough cards that command a decent premium.

Where is the

Elberfeld, port,
Smith Chic & Boston,
Dahlen Brooklyn,
Joe Doyle,
G. Brown, Wash.?

Did these cards only come in certain backs thus there scarcity? Is this a subject for a diffeerent thread?

Lee

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Old 07-21-2006, 02:59 PM
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Posted By: Jim Rivera

Have Adkins and Latham -I think they are below O'Neil but above Nicholls on Readers list.

Not sure how this fits in but I hope it helps.

Remember Readers list is from what has shown up on ebay and maybe recent auctions. There are many T206s on ebay but I bet there are at least 10 to 20x that have not seen ebay and never will. There are probably many early collectors who still don't use a computer!

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Old 07-21-2006, 06:21 PM
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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Lee,
I have 30-40 more, but I can't get to the folder from the coast. Be well Brian


ADKINSPOR
ANDERSONML
ARMBRUSTERML
BAKERHOF
BARRYPOR
BLISSML
BRESNAHANBAT
BURCHFIELD
BURKEML
BUSHML
BUTLERML
CARRPOR
CHANCEPORY
CHASEDCAP
CLANCEYML
CLARKML
CRAWFORDBAT
DAVIDSONPOR
DELEHANTYPOR
DOWNEYFIELD
DUFFYBAT
FIENEPOR
FLANAGANML
FORDML
GANZELML
GANZELML
GEYERTHROW
GRIFFITHBAT
GRIMSHAWML
GRIMSHAWML
HARTSELL
HAYDENML
HULSWITTBAT
HUMMEL
JACKSONPOR
JENNINGSBOTH
JOHNSONTHROW
JONESML
JORDANML
KISINGERML
KNIGHTML
KNIGHTPOR
KNIGHTBAT
KRAUSEPOR
KROHTHROW
LA PORTETHROW
LEIFIELDBAT
LENNOXML
LIVINGSTONEML
LORDBOSTON
MADDOX
MANNINGPITCH
MANNINGPITCH
MATHEWSONDARK
MCCORMICKML
MCGANNML
MCGRAWHAND
MERRITTML
MILLERML
MILLER
MORAN
MULLINBAT
MURPHYBAT
OBERLINML
ONEILLML
PELTY
PELTYVERT
PERRING
PERRINGPOR
PFEFFER
PSEITERTHROW
QUINNML
REULBACH
RHOADESARMCHEST
RHODESPOR
RHODESPOR
RUCKERTHROW
RUDOLPHML
SCHRECKML
SEYMOURTHROW
SHECHARDML
SLAGLE
SMITHCHI&BOS
STARRML
STEINFELDTBAT
SUMMERSTHROW
SWEENEYML
SWEENEYBAT
TANNEHILLwash
TITUSPOR
WAGNERRIGHT
WHITE ML
WILLETML
WILLETTML
WILTSETHROW
ZIMMERMAN

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Posted By: steve yawitz

I have 5 out of about 190 T206's:

Fred Beck - AB 350 (with frame)
Jack Bliss - AB 350 (with frame)
Joe Lake (StL-No Ball) - AB 350 (without frame)
Ossie Schreck - AB 350 (with frame)
Harry Steinfeldt (with Bat) - AB 350 (without frame)

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Hey guys,

Out of about about 515 or so... here's what I have:


AB 350 frame
Chance, Chicago down 350
Hinchman, Toledo


AB 460 no frame
Duffy, Chicago
Cobb, Detroit dark cap bat off shoulder


I thought I had half a dozen, and I thought I had a 350 no frame... Still 3 HOFs isn't bad.

Frank.

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Posted By: martindl


Not ranked on Readers list, but one AB - Bergen catching - 460 no frame

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Posted By: lee behrens

Revising the thread because of a recent thread for AB information.

Lee

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