Reflections on 1949 BOWMAN's (25 HOFers, many Rookies)...show-N-tell us of your cards

[tedzan]

I am quite surprised at the responses to this thread regarding the fascination with the color error cards found in the set.
I'm working a special set (approx. 40 % complete) comprising of various color errors. Shown here is a sampling of some
of the printing mistakes found in this set.

Feel free to post some of your printing mistakes here.


SLATE Lo # and Hi # cards





PINK and YELLOW cards (Should be RED and ORANGE)




7th sheet SLATE cards (Salkeld and Muncrief normally YELLOW)





TED Z

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[tedzan]

Speaking about "color-less" BOWMAN cards.....reminds me, I still recall in the Spring of 1950 when us kids opened our 1st packs of 1950 BOWMAN BB cards,
and the thrill we got seeing all those colorful cards.....Yogi Berra, Jackie Robinson, Robin Roberts, Bob Feller, Phil Rizzuto, Pee Wee Reese, Warren Spahn, etc.











TED Z

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[jimmysuitcase]

Ted,
I have a Doby hi# that has a light-colored (not gray) back and appears to have been handcut. I bought it as a younger collector before I knew that hi#s "only" came with gray backs, and I dismissed my purchase as a reprint.

This past weekend, I saw a long-time dealer and noticed he had two Doby cards in his display case. Upon examination, I noticed that one was legit/typical and the other had a light-colored back like mine, and it was also hand cut. When I asked him about the card's authenticity, he said that it was something akin to (though maybe not precisely) a box-bottom display card.

Do you have any knowledge of or examples of these yourself, or is it likely that we may both have reprints?

James

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by jimmysuitcase

Ted,
I have a Doby hi# that has a light-colored (not gray) back and appears to have been handcut. I bought it as a younger collector before I knew that hi#s "only" came with gray backs, and I dismissed my purchase as a reprint.

This past weekend, I saw a long-time dealer and noticed he had two Doby cards in his display case. Upon examination, I noticed that one was legit/typical and the other had a light-colored back like mine, and it was also hand cut. When I asked him about the card's authenticity, he said that it was something akin to (though maybe not precisely) a box-bottom display card.

Do you have any knowledge of or examples of these yourself, or is it likely that we may both have reprints?

James

Hi James

I don't have any reprints in my sets. And, I'm not sure I understand what a "bottom-box display card" is ?

Show me some scans, and I'll give you a better answer on this.


TED Z

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[jimmysuitcase]

Hi Ted,
I feel silly even posting these, as the card looks so fake to me. If it weren’t for the assertion of this dealer (who shall remain nameless) and my card’s similarity of appearance to his, I wouldn’t have even mentioned it.

“Box-bottoms”: I’m not sure if you collected any cards from packs during the late 80s, but many of the wax boxes had cards on the box bottoms that could be cut out and saved. The assertion about this light-backed Doby card was that there was a similar situation in 1949. Perhaps a consumer bought the last pack of cards, and on the bottom of the box - maybe inside bottom or maybe outside bottom - were a few card images that could be cut out and saved - not by design, necessarily, but just for the heck of it.

Does that sound at all familiar or feasible? Have you encountered any 49B boxes that might’ve had such advertising?

Thanks for any feedback!
James

PS: all of my other Bowman card backs predictably are light or gray from #1-72 and gray from 73-240.

[tedzan]

Hi James....sorry for the delay, as I was away all day.

I collected these cards as a kid (Spring thru the Fall of 1949). I don't recall anything of what you are suggesting regarding the 24-count wax-pack
boxes that the 1949 BOWMAN's were in.
Furthermore, the boxes I have seen, since I returned to the hobby in the late 1970's, do NOT have anything like you are suggesting.

Now, what I can tell you is that the 1949 BOWMAN cards were REPRINTED circa 1988. All 240 cards were printed with WHITE backs.

Take a close look (under magnification) at the bottom of the back of your Larry Doby card. Look for the "Reprint" info that may have been erased.

Also, the other clue that indicates to me that this Doby card may be a reprint, is its top and right borders which are too large.


TED Z

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[Rich Klein]

Just a quick note, I finally had some time to go through this thread. I'm going to create the slate listings for the COMC data base and eventually see if we have had to move over. Any help building the checklist is very appreciated.

(Ted, FYI -- I sent you an email about this and what I believe was what happened to Dan's health before his untimely passing.) Let me know via email or PM and any help with both of these is appreciated.

Rich

[Bram99]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I am quite surprised at the responses to this thread regarding the fascination with the color error cards found in the set.
I'm working a special set (approx. 40 % complete) comprising of various color errors. Shown here is a sampling of some
of the printing mistakes found in this set.

Feel free to post some of your printing mistakes here.


SLATE Lo # and Hi # cards





PINK and YELLOW cards (Should be RED and ORANGE)




7th sheet SLATE cards (Salkeld and Muncrief normally YELLOW)





TED Z

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Hey Ted, this is an interesting subset you are collecting.

Anyone attempting to collect an autographed version of each of the 1949 Bowman cards? I just bought some. Not sure how hard that would be to pursue. Tony

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Bram99

Hey Ted, this is an interesting subset you are collecting.

Anyone attempting to collect an autographed version of each of the 1949 Bowman cards? I just bought some. Not sure how hard that would be to pursue. Tony

Hey Tony

Since you asked. Here is a small sample of my autographed 1949 BOWMAN cards. Some of them were signed in person. Others were already autographed, so I cannot vouch for those.

One of the friendliest ballplayers was Johnny Mize. We had a really interesting conversation. I reminded him of the 1952 World Series when he single-handedly beat the Dodgers.
When our conversation ended, he invited me to visit him, if I was ever in the Demorest, Georgia area.

In 1987, on my way to Florida, I stopped by to see Johnny. He was a tremendous guy.
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TED Z

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[Bram99]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey Tony

Since you asked. Here is a small sample of my autographed 1949 BOWMAN cards. Some of them were signed in person. Others were already autographed, so I cannot vouch for those.

One of the friendliest ballplayers was Johnny Mize. We had a really interesting conversation. I reminded him of the 1952 World Series when he single-handedly beat the Dodgers.
When our conversation ended, he invited me to visit him, if I was ever in the Demorest, Georgia area.

In 1987, on my way to Florida, I stopped by to see Johnny. He was a tremendous guy.
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TED Z

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Thanks Ted, and thanks for this thread. I love this set. It's my favorite and I have been collecting it for the past few years. I am nearing completion of a PSA graded set, and I have a bunch of extras of my favorite players, as well as some signed ones, some gray variations, some partial sheet scraps, etc. Next frontier after finishing the 252-card portion of the set is to get the crème and gray variations of the first 72. What a great set to collect!

Tony

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Bram99

Thanks Ted, and thanks for this thread. I love this set. It's my favorite and I have been collecting it for the past few years. I am nearing completion of a PSA graded set, and I have a bunch of extras of my favorite players, as well as some signed ones, some gray variations, some partial sheet scraps, etc. Next frontier after finishing the 252-card portion of the set is to get the crème and gray variations of the first 72. What a great set to collect!

Tony

Your welcome, Tony....it's my pleasure. The 1949 BOWMAN set is my favorite post-WWII set.

The first colorized BB cards I collected in my youth were the 1949 LEAF's. LEAF's 1st series cards were available before the 1949 BOWMAN's.
And, we were thrilled to open a LEAF pack to find Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Jackie Robinson, etc.
Furthermore, the LEAF's were great for "flipping" and/or "scaling".

Then, about a month (or so) later, the 1949 BOWMAN cards were available at our Candy stores. The BOWMAN's included Yankees players that
were not in the LEAF's......like Yogi Berra, Tommy Henrich, Allie Reynolds, Eddie Lopat, and many more. So, I favored the BOWMAN cards.


TED Z

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