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Old 07-23-2005, 11:45 PM
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Posted By: Adam J. Moraine

There is currently a listing on Ebay featuring a 1914 CJ Cobb. It's PSA graded 8. As of Sunday morning (12:35 a.m. Iowa time) bid was $117.50. User ID is "private" (the #1 reason why I think it's fake). The seller is selling under the name investinginpaper. Ebay item # is 5222850431. IF it is fake, when PSA graded the card, should they have disclosed the fact they had graded a reprint card, and NOT an authentic example.

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Old 07-24-2005, 12:02 AM
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Posted By: David Vargha

I don't think anything he has is fake. I just don't believe that he actually possesses anything in his private, 1-day auctions.

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Old 07-24-2005, 12:03 AM
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Posted By: Jim F

The card and holder look good. What is happening is the scans are stolen from 2 or 3 different large auctions and older ebay listings. This guy has well over $100k in auctions running for 1 day. Shouldn't ebay have software that sets off alarms when someone tries this. People are actually making some large bids on these items. All the signs of a scam are there, feedback of 76, mostly on cheap, new cards. No Paypal, private auctions. C'MON EBAY!!!
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Old 07-24-2005, 12:34 AM
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Posted By: davidcycleback

The operative phrase is really slow shipping.

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Old 07-24-2005, 12:35 AM
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Posted By: Judge Dred

Ebay couldn't really do much to detect this because the auctions are starting at a low minimum bid and I didn't see any of them with reserves. It'd be easy enough to just take the money and run. All the tell tale signs of impropriety are there. The people that understand this will figure it out fast enough.

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Old 07-24-2005, 01:40 AM
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Posted By: Brian

The "criminal" is selling dozens of extremely high dollar items using stolen images. I see the CJ Jackson PSA 7, Sporting News Ruth PSA 8, a couple T206 Cobbs, Goudeys Ruths and the listings go on for 191 items.

I just finished reporting the seller to Ebay with their "general fraud link". http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/questions/avoid-fraud.html

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Old 07-24-2005, 04:21 AM
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Posted By: Seth B.

I think these are ripped off from Sotheby's auctions, here's a completed example, which shows the M101-5 Ruth with the same PSA cert #:
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6534017036
Who knows, maybe this guy threw down half a million in cards in June, and decided he wanted to resell immediately. The whole thing smacks of a scheme, and anyone who knows anything will stay away.

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Old 07-24-2005, 05:24 AM
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Posted By: Patrick McHugh

This is bad. The potential is a half mil or more. Granted it could be the buy of a lifetime, but i think your odds are better playing powerball. (Wheres the Wagner!)

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Posted By: Chris

Seller states: "We will be running these as 1 days auctions as we have found no matter if you run them 10 days, 7 days, 3 days or 1 day your sales are the same". Everyone knows this is not the case, in fact you are better off running a 10 day auction. A large auction house would know this. It's a scam.

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Old 07-24-2005, 06:09 AM
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Posted By: Seth B.

Where's the Wagner, indeed. Yeah, no joke, this guy is currently selling just about every famous sportscard in existence otherwise. Three 86 Fleer Jordans, two 52 Mantles (one a PSA 8!). Ebay has got to shut this down.

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Posted By: Adam J. Moraine

Thanks guys! for responding to my post. Brian, (warrior78) THANK-YOU, for reporting the seller to EBAY with there fraud link. IF I knew how to do it, I would have done it myself. Thanks again, everyone!

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Posted By: Anonymous

BTW, there is also a similar thread on the PSA boards. Some people seem to be proactive about hunting the seller down to include contacting the local police and doing reverse phone searches on the sellers phone number.

Good chance this is a case of a highjacked account. All cards are real but the images were stolen.

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Posted By: Anonymous

The total on the 191 items is over 113,000 dollars and its only 11am est.

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