eBay Ratings - PWCC

[Edwolf1963]

Originally Posted by bensie

$25 for what six cards? I just bought a lot of over 20 cards, and my shipping was nowhere near $25.

Yeah .. $25 for the 6. I know it’s based off price and noted in their auction, but still ridiculously inflated IMO. Regardless, expected to be shipped in small box, not jammed in a flat rate envelope. 5 stars as I recall was for “very reasonable” feedback. Hardly the case here .. but again, that option has been removed.

You know what’s interesting to me is that as I recall you’ve always had the option to leave star ratings for PWCC .. until now .. and since the recent fat shipping change padding. Knowing that many would not be inclined to leave that 5 stars (regardless of whether or not they post it, logic would say few would find it “very reasonable”) and the likelihood that would drop them below a 4.8 - it seems that eBay just removed that option.

Indeed rank does have its privileges

[Promethius88]

I bought a card from them 3 days ago and I just clicked on the feedback option and it allows me to give them stars for everything including the shipping.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

Yeah .. $25 for the 6. I know it’s based off price and noted in their auction, but still ridiculously inflated IMO. Regardless, expected to be shipped in small box, not jammed in a flat rate envelope. 5 stars as I recall was for “very reasonable” feedback. Hardly the case here .. but again, that option has been removed.

You know what’s interesting to me is that as I recall you’ve always had the option to leave star ratings for PWCC .. until now .. and since the recent fat shipping change padding. Knowing that many would not be inclined to leave that 5 stars (regardless of whether or not they post it, logic would say few would find it “very reasonable”) and the likelihood that would drop them below a 4.8 - it seems that eBay just removed that option.

Indeed rank does have its privileges

I don't think those ratings matter anymore. Ebay bases discounts off of giving free return shipping, shipping on time and handling returns to their satisfaction.

[bobbyw8469]

I'm pretty sure that PWCC is so big that they can call the shots with Ebay. Do you really think Ebay wants to lose someone that is paying them 6 figures a month?

[bounce]

I noticed the same thing.

$30 to ship me three cards, I think it saved me like $4-5 versus just paying for all of them individually. I was going to ding them a star or two for the increased cost, but it wasn't a choice.

This is second time I've been disappointed with their shipping costs. Other was for some mini-helmets I won which they charged like $30-40, something like that to send me three of them. They could have sent me a dozen for less than that.

Now they do a great job combining on smaller dollar stuff, when I used to win several graded commons for sets the combined shipping discount was pretty meaningful. Now it's all tied to the value of the auctions.

They're definitely charging more, there's is no disputing that. They upload the shipping info quickly after payment as well. However, a week to get three cards from Oregon to Texas with UPS? Color me skeptical.

[bounce]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'm pretty sure that PWCC is so big that they can call the shots with Ebay. Do you really think Ebay wants to lose someone that is paying them 6 figures a month?

I don't think that's true at all.

First, eBay is a multi-billion dollar company. Even if they "lost" PWCC, it wouldn't change anything eBay does.

Second, where exactly would PWCC take their business? eBay is a brand pretty much everyone in the world is familiar with. PWCC is a brand only us collecting geeks know anything about.

[swarmee]

Maybe wait more than 7 days to leave feedback. I know on Power Sellers you can't leave them a negative for 7 days. Maybe the same with stars?

[irv]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

Question - has anyone else noticed the option to give a star rating for shipping costs and/or communication on eBay to PWCC has been removed? On my most recent - they got an automatic 5 stars on each despite their new inflated shipping rates of late and not responding to questions.

Nobody else gets that .. that I am aware of (unless shipping was free)

$25 ship on 6 cards on most recent, then then they show up in a cheap, flimsy $7 USPS flat rate envelope.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Rank hath its privileges.

I haven't read them lately but E-Bay rules clearly state(d), Do not charge more for shipping that what it actually costs.

Either those rules aren't enforced or some have immunity.

[Throttlesteer]

Well, consider what PSA charges in shipping for even low $ cards. To top it off, they require every type of service be sent with separate orders. So, if you have a regular submission, a review, and a crossover, you're paying high shipping costs THREE separate times.......and both directions. I'm not entirely sure why it's such an operational anomaly requiring separate shipping; One of their 18 graders is going to look at all three and do essentially the same thing.

PWCC seems like a bargain in comparison.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bounce

I don't think that's true at all.

First, eBay is a multi-billion dollar company. Even if they "lost" PWCC, it wouldn't change anything eBay does.

Second, where exactly would PWCC take their business? eBay is a brand pretty much everyone in the world is familiar with. PWCC is a brand only us collecting geeks know anything about.

Agreed. In all these years nobody has yet come up with an auction site that touches ebay.

[murphy8276]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'm pretty sure that PWCC is so big that they can call the shots with Ebay. Do you really think Ebay wants to lose someone that is paying them 6 figures a month?

What is PWCC's alternative auction website though...? I agree ebay fees are outrageous, but PWCC likely needs ebay as much as they need him.

[bensie]

Originally Posted by murphy8276

What is PWCC's alternative auction website though...? I agree ebay fees are outrageous, but PWCC likely needs ebay as much as they need him.

Lol, those "outrageous" fees are less than any other auction house you can sell with...by a considerable margin.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by bensie

Lol, those "outrageous" fees are less than any other auction house you can sell with...by a considerable margin.

That is not necessarily true, in fact some of the advertisers on here, as well as a few others, charge 0% sellers fee, depending on item. You can list items on ebay for less yourself. Granted you or I may not get the bids/and or watchers they get.

[bobbyw8469]

Granted you or I may not get the bids/and or watchers they get

And that is the part I don't get. Ebay is supposed to level the playing field. Do buyers REALLY want to pay double the price through an auction, when a lesser "no-name" seller is selling the exact same card in the exact same grade (sometimes in better condition) for less?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

That is not necessarily true, in fact some of the advertisers on here, as well as a few others, charge 0% sellers fee, depending on item.

Oh, you're one of those people... if ebay/pp only charged buyers a fee of 13% instead...

[bensie]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

That is not necessarily true, in fact some of the advertisers on here, as well as a few others, charge 0% sellers fee, depending on item. You can list items on ebay for less yourself. Granted you or I may not get the bids/and or watchers they get.

Right, but they charge a buyer's premium which comes straight out of the consigner's pocket. Do the math. eBay is by far the cheapest place to auction cards.

[bensie]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

Yeah .. $25 for the 6. I know it’s based off price and noted in their auction, but still ridiculously inflated IMO. Regardless, expected to be shipped in small box, not jammed in a flat rate envelope. 5 stars as I recall was for “very reasonable” feedback. Hardly the case here .. but again, that option has been removed.

You know what’s interesting to me is that as I recall you’ve always had the option to leave star ratings for PWCC .. until now .. and since the recent fat shipping change padding. Knowing that many would not be inclined to leave that 5 stars (regardless of whether or not they post it, logic would say few would find it “very reasonable”) and the likelihood that would drop them below a 4.8 - it seems that eBay just removed that option.

Indeed rank does have its privileges

In that case, you're probably paying for insurance. I don't see a problem with it, especially since they are upfront with shipping costs. Just price shipping into your bid. Simple.