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Old 01-30-2011, 06:04 AM
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Default Explain this - Buck Weaver Bat Mears Auction

I stayed away from, but can someone tell me why the crazy high price jump.

This very same bat sold at Legendary Auctions 2006 for $528. 4 years later Mears sells it for almost $3000.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...px?lotid=69596

http://www.mearsonlineauctions.com/L...at---1-of-1-On

What I did not like about this bat is yes both say Carroll, and if a player named Carroll, or even better Chuck Carroll played from the from 1923-1932 as the dating on the 2 bats indicate I have no problem. But there wasn't. A Charles Carroll played 1910-1929, so that covers the 1st bat, and another Charles Carroll played from 1925-1932, so that covers the 2nd bat, but not the 1st. Pretty unlikely Buck knew both Chuck Carrolls and liked both their bats ; )

I know the description, and the 2, rather then 1, sells this, but is it possible to find an old bat with any players name on it from the same time frame as one of the Black Sox players and just write one of there names on it in that old grease pencil or whatever it is and say hey that must be a barnstorming bat.

I'm probably off on this but it just seems weird.

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Old 01-30-2011, 06:22 AM
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Simple answer -- it's a Buck Weaver bat! While it's not from his playing days, it's got his name factory side-written on it -- is there another one of those in existence? I think the buyer got a great deal (somehow it must have slipped through the crack at Legendary -- I've bought a number of things at major auctions over the years, just because I realized they were selling for a ridiculously low price -- great bargains can still be found at major auctions).
As for the Chuck Carroll, it appears it was thrown in as an interesting coincidence, and was billed as that, nothing more -- as Jimmy would say -- a great companion piece.

I was more surprised at some other bats -- the Al Lopez I thought went very low. There is maybe only one other known. True this one had condition problems, but it's incredibly rare.

I thought the Eddie Collins Stahl & Dean went for a very high price, same with the early Reggie.

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Old 01-30-2011, 07:24 AM
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Default Weaver Bat

I won the Weaver bat, and the only reason I did so was the side writing of his full name on the side. I very much like the other Carroll bat that was included. I would think that Carroll was a barnstormer just like Weaver, and thus would not appear in the major or minor league lists. Just a guess though.

I agree that I think this bat went way cheap. Hopefully I (we) are correct!

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Old 01-31-2011, 10:13 AM
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Simple answer -- it's a Buck Weaver bat! While it's not from his playing days, it's got his name factory side-written on it -- is there another one of those in existence? I think the buyer got a great deal (somehow it must have slipped through the crack at Legendary -- I've bought a number of things at major auctions over the years, just because I realized they were selling for a ridiculously low price -- great bargains can still be found at major auctions).
You mean the buyer at Legendary got a great deal becuz he was the one who cashed in 6x.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:19 AM
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I won the Weaver bat, and the only reason I did so was the side writing of his full name on the side. I very much like the other Carroll bat that was included. I would think that Carroll was a barnstormer just like Weaver, and thus would not appear in the major or minor league lists. Just a guess though.

I agree that I think this bat went way cheap. Hopefully I (we) are correct!

Tom C
This bat was on Ebay a couple of times in the past few years, forget the asking price, maybe someone else knows.

If Carroll did not appear in the majors or minors why would he have bats made at the factory with his name? Perhaps MGH or another expert could chime in, but why would a non major or minor leaguer have their own bats made? I'm still skeptical as were the buyers obviously viewing the Legendary auction a few years ago, but you and another bidder in the Mearss obviously felt different.

Time will tell if u find another buyer in that range. I think it went high, but good luck. Ya never know.
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On a different board, someone said a different lot sold for a lot cheaper than before, so the pricing 'bounce' can go both ways.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:30 AM
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On a different board, someone said a different lot sold for a lot cheaper than before, so the pricing 'bounce' can go both ways.
Good point, I saw that post. Yikes!
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