Whatever happened to Goudeys, Diamond Stars, Playballs etc.

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Posted By: David

Good point, I have noticed that as well. Personally, I would enjoy discussions of Pre-War football, boxing and other sports, and even atypical 1950s baseball cards. I know precious little about the non baseball areas, and would enjoy learning more.

Come on guys, get on the stick! (Or is it get off the stick? I forget)

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Posted By: MW

David --

Here's an interesting article about the 1935 National Chicle football series:

http://www.bmwcards.com/Hobbynews.htm#art6

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Posted By: leon

I feel that the more "common" series that we discus just don't have that much excitement to them. This is a debate that absolutely has not right or wrong answer so if anyone disagrees that is fine too. I see about 1000 of the aforementioned cards on ebay all of the time. I don't see that many of the cards we talk about (for the most part). As a collector I want something that is a little more tough to collect. I do have examples of the Playball's, Goudey's, Diamond Star's...etc....but they just don't do much for me in the way of "collecting".....I remember when I bought my '33 #144 Ruth. It was right before I discovered ebay. I thought it was pretty scarce when I bought it Still a great pose but scarce? Go try to build a fairly common E106 set and then compare....(and I know about the '33 Nap....blah blah blah).....just my thought....regards all

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Posted By: TBob

The golden era of baseball and the fact that life (seemingly) was so much more innocent and simpler before WW1 might lead to the collector passion for the early sets. The publicity of the T206 Wagner certainly hasn't hurt in getting collectors interested in the pre War sets. Personally I like the art deco look of the Diamond Stars and the Goudeys in nice shape are very attractive, but I sold all my cards in these sets to chase the tobacco and caramel cards pre 1916.

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Posted By: Brian H. 

Although this site defines Vintage as pre-war (WWII, that is) and nominally includes those colorful gum cards from the 30's as well as the B&W photos from 39 & 40 -- nearly all of the cards we discuss are pre-1920.
This is an observation not a complaint.
Apart from our general lack of interest in discussing the 1930's cards I have also noticed that they do not seem nearly as popular in terms of sales as they were 10 years or more ago.* I wondered why and was hoping some of you could enlighten me both from a collector perspective and more of a dealer perspective.
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* This is not addressed to the ultra high grade cards of Ruth, Gehrig etc, which, when encarcerated in plastice still command car prices.

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Posted By: runscott

I like the colors used, quality of ink, card thickness, and they are gorgeous when the borders are nice and white, but unfortunately all three sets you mention have tendencies toward browning borders, especially the Diamond Stars. Here's one of my favorites:

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Posted By: Jay Miller

Nice article by Brian on the National Chicle set. I used to collect these and I always assumed that there were two printings which would explain the different position of Casey's signature and also the relative scarcity of the last twelve cards.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

but are there any 20th century cards prettier than a '67 Topps Maury Wills, or a "63 Topps Clemente? Or the Koufax or Brock from the same set?

I never look at them anymore...

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Posted By: David

You're right it's illegal, Julie. Maury would kick your butt if he heard you call him pretty.

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Posted By: effe

Mike,
In your research, were you able to determine why they stopped at only 36 cards? It's a great set that I'm slowly trying to piece together, but it would have been awesome if had the intended 240 cards.
effe

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Posted By: runscott

I call my '34 Goudey Hubbell "Hubba,Hubba,Hubbell"

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Posted By: scott brockelman

MW i would think that since there are 24 1st series cards with 2 possible backs, that would equate to 48 diff. combinations and since the 2nd series 25-36 only come with 1 back type, that would make for a total of 60 cards for a "master" set. i was wondering what you were referring to when you stated 60-84 possible combinations. at one time i amassed all the type 1 & 2 backs for the 1st series, having sold a few i have the set with i believe 18 of the 24 1st series cards with both back text's,

scott brockelman