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06-20-2010, 09:38 AM
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06-20-2010, 09:54 AM
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$18,000.00,,,,,,,,,,,,,??
 What am I missing here? I know he's a wicked pitcher, but what's up with the inflated prices? Clayton
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06-20-2010, 09:57 AM
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funny thing is, he could go on to win ROY, 5 cy youngs...etc...and i still be this card wont go above 5-7 grand in 10 years
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06-20-2010, 10:00 AM
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For $18,000 ...
What would you buy? Right now the bid is $18k and I can think of a ton of vintage stuff that I've always wanted and would be able to get if I had $18k to blow. What vintage cards or memorabilia would you spend your $18k on? Just curious.
I might... -- Fill in a bunch of holes in my T206 set including some HOF'ers and rare backs -- Pick up some 1900-1930's HOF'er cards and/or autographs -- Start an Old Judge subset -- Add to my T3 set (currently consisting of a single card  ) Those are probably too vanilla for some of you advanced collectors. So, let's hear what you would get?
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06-20-2010, 10:01 AM
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Very true, I just find it amazing that a players card could go for so much with hardly any history behind him. We'll see what the future brings,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Clayton
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06-20-2010, 10:04 AM
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it's a gamble.....
To me it's just another gamble at that price. Hey, we do it all of the time with pre-war. That is just a shiny new card they are doing it with.
For 18k there are thousands of pre-war cards I could buy. Heck the uniquely known 1915 Thorpe I picked up was only half that cost.  It's fun to watch this new stuff though...
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06-20-2010, 10:11 AM
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If I had $18,000.00 to spend on cards I would spend it all on T206's. I would buy a Magie error,each Cobb, and pick up any HOFers that I don't have yet
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06-20-2010, 10:33 AM
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I looked at the completed listings for his orange refractor, I saw a couple go for around 3k, then about a week later they started ending around 4,800. If I was the 3k buyer I'd be selling already.
(although I don't have the guts to spend 3k on a 2010 baseball card)
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06-20-2010, 10:43 AM
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A Hobby No Stats in Grade 4-5. Or about 25% the rest of my T205 set that I need in grade 4's and higher with a few rare backs included.
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06-20-2010, 10:53 AM
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id probably buy a Harley, rather then cards.... and a really nice tv.
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06-20-2010, 11:30 AM
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Hell with half that money I could buy damn near every card I've ever wanted and have money left to spare.
Good for the sellers, making out like crazy. I was in an antique store yesterday that had busted a bunch of boxes of 2010 Bowman. They had a handful of base Chrome Strasburgs with a huge sticker on them, 'NO DISCOUNT, $65.' I'm in the DC area so the hype around here is insane but c'mon!
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06-20-2010, 04:51 PM
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06-20-2010, 10:10 PM
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crazy, for his $100 investment, he is probably going to end up with 40k+
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06-20-2010, 11:31 PM
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heres a story and a picture of the man who bought the Strasburg Superfractor for $16K last week
 http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=5290998
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06-21-2010, 12:02 AM
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It's just as silly to me that anyone would spend $18,000 on T206s. And it's silly to some other collectors what I spend my money on.
Everyone's always saying how "real" collectors buy what they like. Well what if that's what this guy likes? It's not what I like or what almost anyone who reads this board would like. But if the high bidder likes it, good for him. I voice my opinion on how silly it is by not bidding on it. -Ryan
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06-21-2010, 05:09 AM
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It makes no difference what you "like" and although you can spend your money as you wish, a purchase like this will always be percived as ridiculous by 99.999% of the population. No new card has EVER held it's value (see: Clemens, Gooden, Strawberry, Valenzuela, Prior, Wood, Canseco, McGwire etc.). Even HOF'ers like Boggs, Gwynn, Puckett and the like can be had for practically nothing these days. It's all HYPE. The guy who bought the Strasburg might as well sew it into his suit because he'll be buried with it. Worthless crap IMO.
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06-21-2010, 08:42 AM
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06-21-2010, 08:45 AM
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To reiterate....I agree with you Ryan....It's this guy's money and he can do what he wants with it. Not a lot different than what we do, except there is more of a liklihood our pre-war items will hold more value than the card he bought. (imo)
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06-21-2010, 09:05 AM
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That's exactly right. The purchaser of the Refractor card probably has a golden opportunity right now to make a big profit due to Strasburg's incredible start and media exposure. But if he holds it too long it will inevitably go down in value. The novelty of it is bound to wear off. Of course, he may not care and just prefer to keep it.
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06-21-2010, 09:14 AM
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What???!!! Are you saying that you think Strasburg may actually LOSE a game at some point in his career? What a doubter you are. I foresee 512 straight wins!
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06-21-2010, 09:28 AM
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There's also condition rarity...
One of my colleagues heard I collected baseball cards and brought in from home two of his favorites. 1 was a 1966 Topps Mantle in G-VG condition. The other was a 1991/92 Donruss Elites Cal Ripken Certified Auto card. Guess which one is worth more? The Ripken by twice as much. When I told him this, he was dumbfounded. I tried to explain that the Mantle could be worth many hundreds or more if it were in better condition. But I have to agree with him that on some levels, the price disparity -- condition notwithstanding -- is a bit ridiculous.
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06-21-2010, 09:45 AM
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I think it is wonderful that there are collectors out there willing to pay exorbitant and even idiotic prices for brand new shiney cards. More power to them, at least they won't be bidding against me for pre-war stuff. Let them use their disposable income on bling.
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06-21-2010, 09:58 AM
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My favorite part is the way the media has approached the Nats "bringing him along slowly" just because he spent 2 months in the minors. That is a joke. He was the best pitcher on their staff since the first day of spring training. They kept him in the minors until after June 1 so that they would have an extra year before he can become a free agent. They weren't "bringing him along slowly." They were trading 2 months now for an extra year of lower pay 6-7 years from now!
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06-21-2010, 10:18 AM
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That's exactly why they kept him down, as a money saving move.
There's another rookie who is going gangbusters but not getting as much publicity- Carlos Santana. I never saw a rookie batting third in a major league line up right out of the minors. And last time I looked he was hitting .393 with power. Last edited by barrysloate; 06-21-2010 at 10:21 AM.
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06-21-2010, 10:31 AM
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I think its great that a card can generate this kind of publicity & this kind of pricetag. Not my cup of tea at all, but more power to the winning bidder, its his money.
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06-21-2010, 10:50 AM
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Anybody else notice the Jason Heyword Chrome card go for over 6K a couple weeks ago or so.
I also saw a Strasburg 1/1 Card from the same set............called a Red Parallel or something, sell for about 4.8K a week or two ago. http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-STRASBUR...item4aa1c71e66 Why the disparity with the chrome superfractor thingy. I mean, a 1/1 is a 1/1............right? It really is madness I think.
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06-21-2010, 10:58 AM
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Are there ANY examples of these types of cards (shiny, new, manufactured scarcity) that have gotten more valuable? I've been curious about this. Going back a decade or so, can anyone give any examples? It seems to me that if someone speculates on a prospect and nails it, they should get a big payday for it, but I'm pretty sure that's not at all how it works. Are there any stories of it working that way?
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Bret Saberhagen
I once witnessed a guy write a check for $1,000 for a lot of 100 Bret Saberhagen rookies, after he won his 2nd Cy Young award.
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06-21-2010, 04:37 PM
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The more things change . . .
I was hanging out in a card shop when Fernandomania was just cranking up and his card was going for about $5. Some blowhard walked into the shop and insisted on paying $25 for one.
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06-21-2010, 04:44 PM
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he just wanted the 5 times the value version.... a fool and their money are soon parted!
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06-21-2010, 05:17 PM
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If I were the guy who bought the Strasburg card for $16,000 dollars, I would buy a one way ticket to Washington D.C. and take the card to a car dealership and trade the card, straight up, for a $25,000 dollar car and then drive back home.
Why? Because I am pretty sure the car dealer could turn around and sell the card for a profit and the guy from Michigan will get more value and utility out of the car, over the next seven to 10 years, than he is going to get out of the Strasburg card. David
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Wonder what type of profit he makes? http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHRO...item23080ca4f8
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THIS IS HILARIOUS
http://cgi.ebay.com/1988-Topps-Ron-G...#ht_1251wt_912 Quote:
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that's good stuff... Pabst is the only way i roll! Least someone has a sense of humor!
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