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Old 10-04-2014, 08:56 AM
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Default Does your Tenney have a broken Y ?

I checked 232 and found 12 with a broken Y all of these were different
examples but of the 220 that didn't have it I'm sure some of them are repeat
sales.

These are the examples I found

1 Sweet caporal 150 Factory 30
10 Piedmont 150's
1 Piedmont ?
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:23 AM
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Pardon my vision...but what y is broken?
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Y on jersey.
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Pardon my vision...but what y is broken?
The "Y" on his shirt.
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d'oat! thanks.
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Mine is currently consigned, and does have the broken Y (piedmont 150) back. never noticed it...
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Broken Y

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Old 10-04-2014, 11:53 AM
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Steve: Thanks for posting yours I will add it.
Erick: Is yours in the Sterling Auction? If it is I already counted it.
Odd there is only one Sweet Caporal so far.
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Pat, did you find other 150 series with a complete Y?
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Pat, did you find other 150 series with a complete Y?
Yes, a large percent were from the 150 series.
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Very observant. Do you think the "Y" was made full for aesthetics in a later release?
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Very observant. Do you think the "Y" was made full for aesthetics in a later release?
The "Broken" Y Tenney would have been in a specific spot on the sheet and
may never have been fixed but the rest of the Tenney's on the sheet would
have had the full Y.
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The "Broken" Y Tenney would have been in a specific spot on the sheet and
may never have been fixed but the rest of the Tenney's on the sheet would
have had the full Y.


Exactly. One spot would have had either a flawed transfer or the transfer didn't get laid down properly.

12/220 is an interesting split. Seeing it with the 220 split by series would be pretty interesting. Assuming even distribution between 150's and 350s that would make the broken Y about 1 in every 9 cards. A clue about how many of a particular card were on a sheet.

Great find and good work on the numbers

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PS- A tenney 350 with the broken y would most likely be a real prize.
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"A tenney 350 with the broken y would most likely be a real prize". Totally agree. Is it worth 20x the regular Tenney given the ratio of broken Y discovered v. the non broken Y. I think more.
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12/220 is an interesting split. Seeing it with the 220 split by series would be pretty interesting.

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Here's the breakdown Steve: The most intriguing thing to me is the PD 150 and SC 150 discrepancy, almost seems like something might have been done during the SC 150 printing.


PD 150 85-10
PD 350 29-0
PD ? 10-1
SC 150 53-1
SC 350 24-0
SC ? 8-0
SOV 150 6-0
SOV 350 5-0
SOV ? 3-0
Hindu 3-0
Unknown back 6-0

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12/220 is an interesting split. Seeing it with the 220 split by series would be pretty interesting.

Steve B
Here's the breakdown Steve: The most intriguing thing to me is the PD 150 and SC 150 discrepancy, almost seems like something might have been done during the SC 150 printing.


PD 150 85-10
PD 350 29-0
PD ? 10-1
SC 150 53-1
SC 350 24-0
SC ? 8-0
SOV 150 6-0
SOV 350 5-0
SOV ? 3-0
Hindu 3-0
Unknown back 6-0[/QUOTE]

That's pretty interesting. What I've found with the one really tough card I've checked scans of is about 8 different identifiable types. Which matches nicely with the 85/10 split for P150. The sample size is a bit small but that's encouraging.

That there's only one SC150 when 8:1 would seem to say 6 or 7 is also interesting. I'd need more to feel really comfortable with it, but I think it points towards the sheets being different for different brands. Do you happen to know what factory the SC is? I'll go out on a limb and guess it's a factory25.

I'm thinking either the problem was fixed during printing the SCs, or maybe the single SC is from P150 leftovers used for some SC 150's.

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Old 10-07-2014, 05:22 PM
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Steve, it's a factory 30
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Ah well, not the first guess I've missed. Interesting that it's a 30.

I had some reasoning that made me think it might be a 25, which I'll have to rethink. I have a feeling that the SC broken y will remain a one only for a while.

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That there's only one SC150 when 8:1 would seem to say 6 or 7 is also interesting. I'd need more to feel really comfortable with it, but I think it points towards the sheets being different for different brands. Do you happen to know what factory the SC is? I'll go out on a limb and guess it's a factory25.


Steve B[/QUOTE]


I found a Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 25 with the damage to the Y.
This is the first re-occurring flaw on a a SC/25 and SC/30 in either
the 150 or 350 series that I can recall.
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Default No Broken "Y"

Mine is a Sweet Caporal, 150, Factory 30, District 24. No broken "Y". I find it fascinating how there are so many variations, regardless of how small, still being discovered after 105 - 107 years. That just adds to the appeal of the T206 set for me. Great discovery and thanks for sharing.
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